00:51:05 so to update my question about p9fs the other day, i've been using it in one VM and have not had any problems so far, seems to work pretty well 01:30:36 just ran into another ZFS panic but couldn't get a vmcore since i think it dropped into ddb 01:30:49 seems like some recent change broke zfs a lot 01:34:15 now it's hung (no disk activity) trying to copy a file 01:42:07 can't read the file with rsync either, it starts at 300MB/s, then gradually drops to 0 around 3.5GB 01:52:14 guess i need to restore from backup send open a new PR 02:04:09 ok, now went to reproduce it and the problem is magically fixed 02:04:23 i'm pretty sure some recent change in main has broken zfs though 02:56:41 maybe i'll wait to upgrade to this latest pkg set 02:57:58 kevans: i am unsure because no one on fs@ has reported any problems 02:58:50 and i am using zfs native encryption which we know has been completely broken since it was introduced, but it's disabled on nearly all my filesystems 02:59:07 (i only can't disable it on the root filesystem because i'd have to recreate the pool) 03:01:01 sadly i can't reproduce the panic i had early when starting a bhyve vm and because system was configured to drop into ddb instead of writing a vmcore i don't have a dump 03:05:02 couldn't get a local console to dump it from ddb? 03:05:36 kevans: i didn't even noticed it panicked until i rebooted and noticed the ddb trace in dmesg from the previous boot 03:05:41 and apparently i forgot to save it 03:05:50 oof =( 03:06:09 i've fixed the sysctl config to not drop to ddb now though so at least if it happens again i should have a core 03:08:48 should probably reboot and get a vmcore for 282281 at least 03:09:02 need to upgrade my rpis first though, this is always exciting due no serial console 03:58:37 1!fuchsia /home/lexi# pkg upgrade 03:58:37 ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libmd.so.6" not found, required by "pkg" 03:58:40 fuck sake 03:59:57 someone remind me why i use freebsd 04:00:04 (yes, i know, the answer is linux is worse) 04:10:16 Because pkg-static exists for such occasions. 04:13:10 rwp: i know about pkg-static, but this libmd issue has been haunting me for weeks 04:13:19 and the annoying part is that simply upgrading does not fix it 04:13:31 you have to know the magic incantaiton, 'pkg(-static) upgrade -f' 04:14:11 But, but, but... ldd: /usr/local/sbin/pkg-static: not a dynamic ELF executable 04:14:29 yes, but my point is, 'pkg-static upgrade' does not fix the problem 04:14:34 you have to use 'pkg-static upgrade -f' 04:14:50 because pkg for some reason does not realise some packages have to be upgraded due to sovers changes 04:15:03 In FreeBSD the upgrade with the -f option is pretty well known though. Always use it after a major release upgrade for example. 04:15:38 in other news 04:15:39 Checking for out of date packages: 04:15:40 FreeBSD-dtb-15.snap20240917032829 orphaned: base 04:15:41 FreeBSD-syscons-15.snap20240917032829 orphaned: base 04:15:49 what happened to these packages, did they get removed? 04:17:16 Saying would be knowing, not knowing, cannot say. 04:19:59 i mailed freebsd-pkgbase@ 05:33:40 possiblle! 06:43:28 i have a survey 06:43:40 1) do you have 'pkg orphans' comamnds on your freebsd system? 06:43:45 2) what freebsd version do you use? 07:15:58 ivy: yes—all my systems currently running 15.0-CURRENT. 07:16:46 thanks, seems like this question was prompted by someone who had a custom pkg.conf 07:16:57 and 'pkg orphans' is an alias rather than a builtin command 07:33:22 Aye, 'tis an alias. 09:13:25 what photo viewer is best in gnome enviroment? 09:31:14 ristretto, xxy 11:09:07 does freebsd have a SIIT-DC? 11:46:23 remember back in the 1980s when every minicomputer had a microcomputer on top of it to act as system console? https://i.imgur.com/o3aKWY2.jpeg 15:50:10 that is a funny analogy. but apt 17:54:24 ivy: linux iirc has such feature of plug and play functioning as a console. something to do with usb hub originally... 17:55:38 that is really a console. It reminds me I named one of projects wrong. it may be confusing that I used the word, "console" in it. 17:58:54 https://youtu.be/BVtt38th81k?si=hhLCVrbduiuMLprm&t=50 22:48:17 does freebsd have an API for looking up the SIIT-DC prefix?