01:52:30 Howdy, folks! 02:03:15 eyyy 03:39:33 mzar: sorted it. it's not in the guide though, had to work it out 05:27:30 Uh, woa, I just installed bhyve+-0.1.0_2 on a brand new install of 14.1 and the package install says the package is depreciated and EOL upstream and scheduled for removal? 05:38:03 crb: bhyve is in base system, are you using pkgbase, or maybe you installed something related to bhyve ? 05:38:41 I use the bhyve in base at /usr/sbin/bhyve and don't use a port. 05:38:52 oh I thought it was only a package and I thought bhyve+-0.1.0_2 was how you install it 05:41:41 There are some things that exist both in base and as ports/pkgs such as for example ssh. 05:41:56 I don't feel the need to test out the bleeding edge so I use the ssh in base. But many people want the absolute latest and install ssh from ports/pkgs. 05:42:34 I didn't mean to test out bleeding edge, I just didn't know it was in base 05:42:42 how long has it been in base? 05:42:59 Both are basically functional. Except! When doing a system upgrade of base we all know that might temporarily break ports/pkgs. So if upgrading and using ssh it is best to drop back to the ssh in base before the upgrade if one needs ssh to get into a remote system. 05:43:32 crb: probably since 2015, maybe earlier. I've only ever used bhyve from base and didn't know it was a package 05:43:51 it was available in 10.3, I remember that 05:44:12 thank you! (all of you) 05:44:30 Man pages usually give the history and for bhyve it says "bhyve first appeared in FreeBSD 10.0." 06:06:29 rwp: it didn't have uefi support back then though, it took a while to land 07:06:18 vortexx, 10 was before I came to FreeBSD. I started with 12. And am still learning something new about it every day. 08:36:03 really! bhyve is in ports?! 08:38:38 * f451 checks /usr/ports 08:40:45 not even had coffee yet lol 12:07:51 :w 12:07:55 wrong window (: 12:38:28 F451: How? How can you function yet? 13:22:52 f451: my wife picked me up an espresso machine to help minimize those kinds of moments 13:22:59 :-) 14:01:04 anyone know why snmpd isn't finding my processes ("proc ntpd") 14:01:24 UCD-SNMP-MIB::prErrMessage.4 = STRING: No ntpd process running 14:01:44 yet it is running 14:16:57 hey guys. new to the community. any particular reason most of the freebsd developers use macs? 14:22:49 lol "Hey, new here, *tosses obvious bait question out*" -- yeah, that totally reads like a good faith question 14:23:09 do you have empirical of that fact, or just trolling 14:26:07 yeah. more than happy to engage if it didn't smell heavily like a troll. can't imagine this being the first question of someone maybe wanting to integrate with a community 14:26:35 welcome to the community matt0000000 ! 14:26:36 Im sorry if it came out that way. I just saw a picture of freebsd devs and thought it was the case and maybe there's a reason I dont know, Idk similarities between OSes maybe? had no ill reason. sorry if it came out that way 14:27:18 my freebsd install is only like 20 days old -_-' 14:27:20 only devs can afford it, we are using cheap knockoff and run FreeBSD on it matt0000000 14:28:10 I think devs using a mac are increasingly in the minority based on my personal experience, but I could see why they would 14:28:47 personally, i like the new arm64 macs due to their battery life. bonus points when you plug it in and it builds something like v8 in 5 minutes, though. 14:28:48 a lot of the common tools in a macOS userland are taken from FreeBSD/NetBSD and they have a somewhat sensible UI slapped on top 14:28:53 but mostly battery life 14:30:02 perhaps AI is taking their jobs, they buy now low end laptops instead of expensive macs 14:31:55 thanks that make sense! 14:32:24 matt0000000: how do you like FreeBSD ? 14:34:43 I installed it on my thinkpad x250 and Im surprised at how everything just works! And configuring stuff is way more straightforward than linux so far. I have to say, a really good experience 14:35:10 thank you 14:35:18 * kevans agrees 14:35:21 any tips for a beginner? 14:35:58 ask, if you encounter any problems 14:37:13 will do for sure 16:41:29 Anyone else seeing a build error with ports 2024Q3 branch wherein math/cantor cantor-23.08.5_4 fails on header : work/cantor-23.08.5/src/markdownentry.cpp:37:10: fatal error: 'mkdio.h' file not found 16:51:46 I keep seeing FreeBSD and am wondering - do any of you use it as a daily driver? It really seems like something "different" 16:52:14 yes 16:52:44 I currently am using Fedora Silverblue 40 but kinda want to escape the Linuxosphere a bit. 16:55:16 Just looking to see if there's a parametric eq availab.e 18:05:03 BlackDemon: i have freebsd 14 on my laptop with the xorg, xfce, firefox, chromium, and midori packages. works great as my daily driver. 18:11:53 I'm implementing IPv6 support in an app, on linux, when I listen to a socket(AF_INET6, ...) it will automatically also accept ipv4 connections. This doesn't seem to work on FreeBSD. Does anyone know if there are some way to accept both IPv4 and IPv6 connections on the same socket on FreeBSD or do I need to open 2 sockets? 18:57:01 seems like you need to specify what you want: https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=socket&sektion=2 18:59:06 scoobybejesus: Yes, I read this for FreeBSD and it does seem I need to open one socket for IPv4 and one for IPv6, just wanted to confirm this 19:26:50 thalos: to use v4mapped addresse turn IPV6_V6ONLY off with setsocketopt(2) see ip6(4) 19:28:26 I've created a script to be executed at startup. I added #BEFORE: nut so to be executed before start nut however when I run rcorder I see it would be executed after nut. Any other keyword to force the order? 19:29:11 https://dpaste.org/w30KK 19:29:11 thalos: when you explicit want this for your app you sould also do this on linux, because othervise you might get an unexpected setting (changed by distro or user) 20:15:43 satanist: Thank you. That seems to have done the trick. Will always call setsockopt in order to make sure this works everywhere