01:41:32 <rwp> dch, Back in the day on HP-UX, IBM AIX, Solaris, the ps namespace was global and every user could see all of the process slot information or all processes.
04:40:39 <BraveheartBSD> Are Broadcom nics (bge) a sore point for FreeBSD users?
05:16:37 <kevans> I think bge's generally not bad
05:16:44 <kevans> broadcom wifi is rougher
05:26:27 <BraveheartBSD> Ok. I have an older server, still works well, and the nic's are just ordinary. lose connection, or drop IPv4 for no reason. all 4 of them.
05:27:08 <BraveheartBSD> I've tried loading driver on boot using loader.conf, doesnt seem to help any.
14:26:06 <Demosthenex> i'm so confused. my vmstat says i'm using 500G of ram?
14:26:32 <Demosthenex> https://dpaste.org/8A0tN/raw
14:27:14 <Demosthenex> i have 32G ram, 8G swap. i count 5 GB in tmpfs, and 14GB in major app procs. i should be 19GB/32G used, that's over half.
14:27:20 <Demosthenex> btop says memory is 8% used
14:54:03 <JSHenry> Demosthenex: Looks like avm includes all virtual memory used, whether it's got actual pages swapped in or not.  So something as simple as malloc(10U * 1024 * 1024 * 1024) will not actually allocate memory immediately, but will take up virtual address space, and look like 10G are used.
14:55:08 <JSHenry> Which means the 500G you see is overcommitted, and doesn't reflect reality; unless all programs "cash in" their memory at the same time, the system won't try to actually _use_ that memory.
14:56:24 <Demosthenex> JSHenry: interesting. i'm just trying to find something that's closer to my manual calculation
14:56:49 <Demosthenex> was trying to determine how much i had to spare, to bump up the 14G apps
14:57:17 <Demosthenex> still can't get over btop says 92% free
15:01:54 <JSHenry> So, I'm no expert on this at all; but are you sure that 14GB is accurate? At the very least shared libraries are going to make it a bit difficult to gauge exact memory usage, and how much of that 14GB is swapped out/not-yet-written-to?
15:04:20 <JSHenry> Just for the sake of illustration, a C program that does this: "mmap(NULL, 100UL * 1024 * 1024 * 1024, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_ANON | MAP_PRIVATE, -1, 0)" looks like it takes up 100GB in top's output. But my VM only has 1GB allocated, so there's no way it's actually _using_ 100GB right now.
15:24:01 <Demosthenex> JSHenry: its java, so i tell it the max memory usage. -XmX 7G
15:24:55 <Demosthenex> so, here's an example, though it reads like line noise https://dpaste.org/hcEv0/raw
15:26:23 <Demosthenex> the max RSS is 6.3G which sounds right
15:27:23 <Demosthenex> the other major one is 4.5G RSS. to 9.8G java, 5G tmpfs = roughly 16G used. of 32G ram.
15:27:28 <Demosthenex> that's still half :P
15:27:56 <Demosthenex> the tmpfs work area is capped at 16G, 5G used atm
15:30:04 <JSHenry> Sorry, no ideas there; I don't know how btop calculates memory usage, so I'm not sure why it would disagree with what you're seeing elsewhere.
15:32:34 <Demosthenex> https://dpaste.org/uQW2i/raw   that's top
15:33:11 <Demosthenex> and... despite being fluent in aix and linux, i can't get 50% out of anything there