00:39:58 <SNAX_74> Hello can anyone help me with locating a bluetooth usb device that works with FreeBSD ?
00:46:06 <cybercrypto> SNAX_74: you may take a look into this https://bsd-hardware.info/          If you have access to the HW/bluetooth - it is also good starting point to live boot and check if your hardware is detected.
00:47:44 <SNAX_74> cybercrypto, I am using a Lenovo Thinkpad x260 and bluetooth device not detected on FreeBSD ?
00:47:55 <SNAX_74> So I am looking for a USB plugable device
02:19:10 <jbo> lw
07:14:28 <mane> antranigv: heym there is another problem
07:14:41 <mane> xonotic works fine in jail, however, does not show up on the server list
10:36:45 <antranigv> hey mane
10:37:04 <antranigv> mane I'm not familiar with xonotic, I'll check how it works
10:39:01 <antranigv> mane I assume you have `sv_public 1` in the configuration?
10:45:30 <mane> yeaH
10:45:39 <mane> THE SAME CONFIG WORKED JUST FINE WITHOUT THE JAIL
10:45:44 <mane> oops caps
11:04:26 <antranigv> mane 1) can the jail access the internet 2) are all the proper ports forwarded?
11:04:41 <antranigv> you can run `sockstat -l` inside the jail to see which sockets are being listened on
11:05:01 <antranigv> maybe there are more ports? wait I'll also check your *old* pf.conf
11:05:38 <antranigv> I assume all of these needs to be forwarded to the jail? udp_services = "{ 1194, 51820, 26000 }"
11:07:58 <mane> i can join the server n xonotic by typing 'connect vlepy.com
11:08:16 <mane> na it only listens on 26000 udp
11:11:26 <antranigv> but it doesn't show on the master server, huh?
11:16:56 <mane> yeah
11:18:54 <mane> maybe the vm can't access the master server?
11:19:07 <mane> idk what the master server address is
11:29:25 <mane> antranigv: ok how would i add another web interface to another vm?
11:33:52 <mane> antranigv: btw where is the tun device on my server :x
11:33:58 <mane> i can't see /dev/tun0
11:37:48 <antranigv> mane is openvpn running?
11:37:54 <mane> yeah
11:38:09 <antranigv> if so, it should be on the host, I guess, inside of ifconfig
11:38:18 <antranigv> it can also be in /dev/tun/tun0.
11:38:18 <mane> it is in ifconfig
11:38:29 <mane> but there is no tun0 file in /dev
11:39:08 <antranigv> I haven't used OpenVPN in a while, but I think tun/tap devices should be in /dev/[tun|tap]/X
11:39:27 <antranigv> for adding another web interface, you might want to setup a vHost on Apache
11:39:41 <antranigv> I think they have docs for that, altho it's been a while since I did that
11:52:38 <mane> ok i got the tun nodes
11:52:51 <mane> what about passing tun0 to the vm, antranigv?
11:53:09 <antranigv> mane you mean to the jail? you want to have a jail just for openvpn? yeah that's doable using devfs.rules
11:53:52 <mane> antranigv: [devfsrules_jail=11]
11:53:52 <mane> add include $devfsrules_hide_all
11:53:52 <mane> add include $devfsrules_unhide_basic
11:53:52 <mane> add include $devfsrules_unhide_login
11:53:52 <mane> #add path tun* unhide
11:53:53 <mane> # not strictly needed
11:53:53 <mane> # add path bpf unhide
11:53:54 <mane> # add path bpf0 unhide
11:53:55 <mane> add /dev/tun* tun* unhide
11:54:23 <mane> antranigv: https://vlepy.com/~wsky/devfs.rules
11:54:25 <mane> oops
11:54:28 <mane> sorry for the spam
11:54:37 <mane> my client has troubles with copy/paste
12:03:32 <antranigv> okay well this is good mane
12:03:54 <antranigv> but I have to ask, do you want openvpn inside a jail basically?
12:04:53 <antranigv> if so, this config might be problematic for security, basically now *every* jail will have access to openvpn
12:04:58 * antranigv thinking
12:05:44 <antranigv> dch you might know the answer to this. if a Jail is creating a tun/tap interface, say for OpenVPN, do we need to setup unhide in devfs.rules? or can we just use OpenVPN as is, in a VNET jail, and the tun/tap device will be reachable for that jail only?
12:06:06 <mane> Better than system-wide OpenVPN on root :f
12:06:21 <mane> Maybe they’ll finally fix this bug in FreeBSD
12:06:30 <mane> OpenVPN can’t drop privileges
13:31:03 <f451> ?
13:31:22 <f451> openvpn runs under openvpn:openvpn
14:05:25 <jimmiejaz> ya'll maybe aware already but if not, https://cybersecuritynews.com/confusion-attacks-in-apache-http-server/  apache http has a remote root exploit, my work just found out we're vulnerable and it's all hands on deck here.
16:04:18 <mvee> I'm using Freebsd 14.0 p5 with KDE (xorg) and startx to bring up my desktop. I ran a pkg upgrade, rebooted and tried to bring up my desktop with startx. Xorg complained about not being able to locate a .serverauth file. I search a while for an answer on the forums but decided to roll back to a previous snapshot.
16:06:52 <mvee> I want to upgrade my machine but I would like to know how I can prevent this from happening again. It appears most of everything related to KDE Frameworks is being upgraded from 5.115.0 to 5.116.0
16:07:18 <angry_vincent> these serverauth much likely has nothing to do with your issue. they are warnings
16:07:51 <angry_vincent> maybe look for real error in Xorg.0.log
16:09:33 <mvee> I'll have to try to upgrade again and see if the problem persits and is logged. If I suppress these warnings in startx, will that allow startx to bring up my desktop even though a warning is present?
16:10:22 <angry_vincent> i have no idea
16:10:40 <angry_vincent> when i used X i never looked at these serverauth warnings
16:14:00 <mvee> from what I understand, these files are created when the server process exist under abnormal conditions. Changing 'enable_xauth=1' to 'enable_xauth=0' in /usr/local/bin/startx only supressed the warning but KDE still failed to load.
16:14:30 <mvee> I appreciate your help. I'll continue to look
16:22:21 <angry_vincent> you need to find out real issue.
16:22:45 <angry_vincent> maybe try startplasma-x11 directly or whatever binary it is
16:22:49 <angry_vincent> and look for errors
16:22:54 <angry_vincent> that's in tty
17:02:23 <mane> f451: on 14.0 it fails to drop privileges
18:18:55 <CCFL_Man> if i have a working hba with the mps0 driver, a working jbod, the system should instantly see the disks once i turn on the jbod?
18:29:33 <SponiX> CCFL_Man: that is normally how it works, yes
19:41:59 <mvee> Tried pkg upgrade again and same results, I'm unable to start KDE with startx. This is my only laptop so I rolled back to a previous snapshot. I looked at the logs for x and didn't see any errors. This is the first upgrade I've had problems with. I installed FreeBSD on this laptop with about a year ago wth 13 and KDE has worked thru every update and upgrade
19:48:51 <CCFL_Man> SponiX: thank you!
19:49:30 <CCFL_Man> never get your minisas cables from some questionable amazon seller
20:55:35 <rtprio> m
21:43:09 <mvee> Is it important to upgade packages? If I stay up-to-date with freebsd-update, can I not upgrade packages?
21:44:49 <timothias> i think freebsd-update updates them
21:44:58 <timothias> Im a newb though
21:45:12 <timothias> I will say that you should never use ports and pkg at the same time
21:45:33 <timothias> rending of garments and gnashing of teeth will surely follow
21:47:24 <mvee> i was under the impression freebsd-update was only security patches and base upgrades?
21:51:55 <mvee> The reason I'm asking is, when i upgrade packages something is getting upgraded that is breaking xorg.
21:52:27 <mvee> I have no clue how to troubleshoot this.
21:53:39 <mvee> But, I'm good with not updating packages if it means my laptop stays functional
21:54:53 <timothias> logs?
21:55:25 <timothias> errors?
21:55:32 <timothias> pancs?
21:55:35 <timothias> panics?
21:56:49 <mvee> short answer, yes. But, I have no way to save them or share them. I have only this laptop and once I upgrade my packages, startx fails to load KDE and I rollback to snapshot
21:57:44 <mvee> But, there are no errors in Xorg log after the upgrade
22:02:38 <mvee> It's confusing. I installed FreeBSD 13 on this laptop a little over a year ago. Followed the handbook for installing KDE, drivers etc. It's performed great and I've had no problems with updating or upgrading to present day 14.0-RELEASE-p9
22:03:53 <topcat001> mvee: does a more simple window manager work?
22:04:13 <topcat001> just to decouple X from kde
22:06:07 <mvee> topcat001: no, I've got everything configured the way I need it. I intially installed with openbox but KDE, although heavy, does well for my workflow and habits
22:07:46 <topcat001> just for testing. Install a simple wm, even twm will do, switch out your startup line in xinitrc, see if X is working, Then you know for sure it's just kde (probably needs to clear config files)
22:10:17 <mvee> how do I change xinitrc to start twm?
22:11:59 <mvee> just delete xinitrc and twm should load right?
22:12:21 <timothias> copy it to a .old file
22:12:26 <timothias> just in case
22:12:30 <mvee> ok
22:12:37 <topcat001> exec twm at the end instead of `exec startkde` (or whatever kde now uses). Of course, check if twm is installed/in path first. Use any other wm if you happen to have it
22:13:28 <topcat001> copy and edit it
22:13:32 <nimaje> mvee, timothias: no, pkg and freebsd-update manage diffrent stuff, to stay up-to-date with packages you have to use pkg, software that comes from packages can have security issues too, if you want to reduce updates use the quarterly repo (default), to reduce even more you can check if you really want some update before, but please if you update something, then update everything to reduce problems
22:13:34 <nimaje> of something assuming a newer version of something than you have installed
22:14:32 <timothias> i do freebsd-update fetch install, and let it rip.
22:14:34 <timothias> then a reboot
22:16:55 <timothias> but thats not getting pkgs ive installed, ie: irssi
22:17:13 <timothias> so I need to update them individually through my own dilligence of checking on them each
22:17:21 <timothias> ?
22:18:40 <nimaje> pkg upgrade
22:18:44 <mvee> topcat001: ok, created another snapshot and upgrading packages. Will test twm once installed and reboot.
22:19:02 <timothias> ima try it!
22:19:05 <timothias> pray for me
22:19:26 <topcat001> cool
22:19:46 <timothias> up to date!
22:20:06 <timothias> thanks for the info