07:52:09 <dch> TIL `freebsd-update IDS` doesn't check /usr/include/* files. anybody else surprised?
08:07:07 <lw> dch: there's no reason it shouldn't, so that's clearly a bug
08:12:39 <dch> I have a vague feeling I've encountered this before
08:13:21 <dch> I think the issue might be trying to run `freebsd-update IDS` on a CURRENT box for a RELEASE dir
08:14:03 <dch> big deja-vu feels
08:16:57 <dch> it appears to be a bit more subtle than that
08:18:23 <dch> if an entire directory is missing, then freebsd-update IDS skips it
08:22:51 <dch> e.g. `mv /usr/include/machine /usr/include/oops`
08:23:17 <dch> but if its a single file, it does what you'd expect
08:29:45 <dch> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=275847
09:11:33 <hc> Lol, freebsd-update IDS complains about my sshd_config file... I've changed it to disable password and PAM authentication.
09:11:44 <hc> oh, master.passwd also has changed
09:32:02 <dch> yeah I have a few more listed here https://people.freebsd.org/~dch/posts/2021-02-23-sideloading-freebsd/
09:58:55 <hc> Oh nice, bectl, I wasn't even aware of this utility
10:00:19 <hc> One thing I like about FreeBSD is that the boot process is still simple enough to easily follow along
10:56:42 <dch> the boot process is really simple, no grub and stuff in sight. I like it a lot.
10:57:12 <dch> another TIL, minix 3.2.0+ has NetBSD userland. nice!
10:58:55 <polyex> netbsd is p cool
13:51:36 <hc> Yeah, it's difficult to swallow all that grub ;-)
13:51:45 <hc> But it doesn't end there.. it doesn't get simpler afterwards
13:53:17 <hc> I don't want to rant about grub etc.; I know too little to be able to judge if their complexity is justified. All I am saying is I feel more comfortable understanding FreeBSD's boot process than a modern GNU/Linux system's
13:53:35 <hc> It's pretty cool btw that grub can load and jump into both the freebsd loader and its kernel
13:53:46 <hc> I used that feature to boot into freeBSD from a linux rescue system
14:32:55 <zwr> whether grub's complexity is justified or not, I've had it break literally dozens of times, so I suspect not
14:46:01 <kevans> we do a pretty good job of not breaking loader
16:31:31 * scoobybejesus knocks on wood
17:48:36 <rtprio> EHLO
17:51:36 <babz> HELO
19:32:33 <beowuff> TILT: freebsd-update IDS. I've never run it before!
19:42:49 <antranigv> beowuff reminds me I have to blog about pkgbase.
19:50:55 <beowuff> yes, please! I use so many blogs while learning. XD
20:46:11 <SponiX> Is is possible, and fairly easy to get Nvidia transcoding support in Plex on Current FreeBSD?
20:46:40 <SponiX> Interwebs gives mixed responses
23:57:15 <debdrup> rtprio: 250 OK