01:08:16 <babz_> well, looking at the code, I see that pkg can't upgrade/downgrade a package from a local file, it only works for installing a new package
01:08:17 <babz_> but I have no idea why...
01:17:28 <_xor> What's the basic gist and status of netlink on FreeBSD?
01:20:51 <_xor> I'm porting netbird and currently my build is failing in the package that handles manipulating the routing table. The Linux implementation uses netlink. My options are to implement it for FreeBSD by reviewing /usr/src/sbin/route/route.c to see how it does it, or look at /usr/src/sys/netlink/* to see if there's enough there to fixup the
01:20:51 <_xor> Linux-specific code.
01:34:46 <lw> _xor: basic functionality should be there, like managing the routing table and interfaces (freebsd route(8) uses netlink, for example).  more esoteric stuff might be missing
07:16:18 <paulf> pid 19983 (perl), jid 0, uid 1001, was killed: failed to reclaim memory
07:16:22 <paulf> any idea why?
07:51:58 <debdrup> paulf: a lot of the time, grep'ing the source code for a specific error like that will only return an error, so `find /usr/src -type f -exec grep "failed to reclaim memory" {} +` will likely find an answer reasonably quickly
07:53:29 <paulf> I was on my mac when I asked
07:59:42 <debdrup> Do you have something taking up a large amount of wired memory (such as ZFS ARC), and very tightly constrained VM watermark levels? There are some OIDs in the the vm. MIB, where you should have v_free_severe < v_free_min < v_free_target - but they might need tweaking, if they're too low.
08:00:03 <kenrap> that error seems like the result of an out-of-memory incident
08:00:22 <debdrup> kenrap: was that not obvious?
08:00:53 <paulf> quite possible, first time I've used aws, and I suspected it was oom
08:01:21 <paulf> didn't expect perl to get killed though
08:01:56 <debdrup> I don't know if there's some interaction between Amazon's hypervisor and FreeBSD, but it's not something I've ever seen, and I run my systems with pretty high memory utilization.
08:02:36 <debdrup> Try tweaking the VM watermark levels, though.
08:03:14 <debdrup> You can also lower the size of the ZFS ARC manually.
08:03:33 <paulf> I need to figure out how to create an instance with the right CPU first - the one I set up was wrong for my needs
08:04:04 <debdrup> Can't help there.
08:04:08 <paulf> And quite likely instances with graviton 4 have more memory
08:39:32 <darwin> it said portsnap is deprecated but not what's replacing it :(
09:42:53 <angry_vincent> is latest pkg repository slowed down in updates? there were no updates for a week. not that it is a problem of having no updates, just an observation
15:37:26 <V_PauAmma_V> angry_vincent, which architecture? I had about 2 dozen package upgrades 2 days ago, amd64. (I think my previous pkg upgrade was 3 days earlier, so still within the past week.)
15:40:51 <angry_vincent> amd64 i have
15:46:51 <V_PauAmma_V> That's weird. Maybe one of the package mirrors didn't get sync'd and you were routed to that one? (IIRC the package mirrors use geo(mumble).)
15:58:24 <adilix> hi all
16:04:02 <angry_vincent> Hi.
16:15:50 <debdrup> I'm pretty sure it's impossible for them to be in sync, to the point that it's possible _that_ is why they aren't up-to-date.
16:17:10 <debdrup> angry_vincent: what version?
16:18:43 <angry_vincent> debdrup: i follow stable/14 if this version asked
16:21:19 <debdrup> Latest build there will be this one: http://beefy12.nyi.freebsd.org/build.html?mastername=140amd64-default&build=07badf98bbd0 - it looks done.
16:22:57 <debdrup> That was somewhere around the 14th.
16:23:18 <debdrup> Wait, no - possibly later.
16:23:49 <tf> comparing 140amd64 and 132amd64 (default) you can see 132amd64 does incremental update builds, but 140amd64 doesnt
16:24:42 <debdrup> 13th of may was the last repo update
16:24:53 <angry_vincent> i cannot browse above link ( maybe due to it is on ipv6 )
16:25:30 <debdrup> Yes, it's only got AAAA addresses.
16:26:23 <debdrup> tf: huh, yeah that does seem somewhat odd.
16:26:47 <debdrup> Might be worth filing a report with the cluster admin team on https://bugs.freebsd.org
16:26:49 <VimDiesel> Title: FreeBSD Bugzilla Main Page
19:10:50 <skered> debdrup: I think it's know and is IPv6 only.
19:10:58 <skered> known*
19:20:16 <debdrup> skered: in that some people know it, or that _everyone_ knows it? :P
19:20:46 <rwp> In that the powers-that-be that control it know it.  It's known to the implementers and maintainers of it.
19:21:17 <rwp> I also know that several of the build machines are IPv6 only.  Thanks for dch for mentoring me through some of the understanding of it.
19:24:00 <skered> I mean it has been reported and it is ipv6 only.
19:24:08 <skered> why? because?
23:17:14 <JustBleedFan> Is it easy to get java installed on FreeBSD? Not for development, but just as a dependency for certain apps. I see various recommendations online.
23:18:09 <polyex> jvm in a jail?
23:18:58 <dstolfa> JustBleedFan: pkg search jdk
23:19:59 <JustBleedFan> Not in a jail, just a regular desktop user who needs java installed to run a certain app.
23:20:09 <dstolfa> same answer
23:20:26 <JustBleedFan> Okay thanks I'll try that.
23:20:39 <dstolfa> pick a version you need and pkg install it
23:20:49 <dstolfa> should just work(TM)
23:24:07 <btcgiveaway> test