01:54:00 i see either compressed or uncompressed manpage listings in ObsoleteFiles.inc, which should be used? 03:16:20 hey all, giving freebsd a try on a old Dell M90, I like it so far. got ly i3  and just about everything i could want installed. however I have a Quadro fx 1500M in this thing so I was trying to use the nvidia 304 driver. installed it , did the ABI workaround, did the setup as told but when i try to startx (or login to i3 via ly) it just  says no 03:16:21 screens found. 03:33:47 I've been doing source upgrades since roughly 3.9/4.0 era, but on my craptop that I currently have that takes over 48H to complete. All the updates on this machine have been source based. I'm thinking it's time to stop stressing this 2010 craptop and do a binary update. Currently behind on 13.2-RELEASE, and looking for a doc/guide/examples of moving from source to binary upgrades and utterly failing. 03:33:53 Anyone have a resource for any "gotchas" when making the switch? 03:51:42 jimmiejaz: You should be okay to go as long as you're on a -RELEASE. 03:52:10 good to know mason, thanks 03:52:54 now I just have to wait the day and half to back up. I hate this machine, it's so damn slow in everything it does 03:53:23 It's been dependable. I used to call the DECstation 3100s I used to use "majestic". 03:53:30 They were unhurried in their computations. 03:55:08 heh' 03:55:09 jimmiejaz: that is impressive, a laptop that is over 14 years old 03:56:10 https://bsd-hardware.info/?probe=d5d32f1334 this report is old, 12.1-stable old but it's the same craptop 03:56:15 Title: HW probe of ASUSTek K52JK #d5d32f1334 03:58:51 single core i5? 2 gig of ram? 03:59:42 no battery, bottom case is off, temps currently hovering at 80C. No, 4 core, 8GB 04:01:31 sorry, 2 cores 04:02:23 oh duh.. the 4x on the side 04:03:08 this m90 i got here is just a T2300 cpu and a Quadro FX1500M with 4GB ram 04:10:01 figure it's my Friday night, got 22 minutes left at work, so I can do a /usr/bin/time -h make buildworld for one last time, gonna skip the weekly back up 07:47:08 question related to jail exec.stop="/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown" parameter, does it have any effect while mentioning on command line, i don't have /etc/jail.conf , only base.txz extracted on path 07:48:39 i am on 14.0-RELEASE-p6 16:06:28 Hello. I have an installation question. I have a server where I only have Linux install options. However there is a FreeBSD (11.4/12.3/13.0) which I can boot into. Now I tried to use bsdinstall but it fails after disk formatting which kernel.txz etc. not found. After looking at the mirror it seems the wrong version is being fetched i.e. version 16:06:28 13.3 instead of the ISO which is 13.0. Again I can't change the ISO. Now I tried to trick the installer in to fetching the 13.3 but that didn't work out. So again I can't use a different image. Can I do anything short of just dding a custom image to the server and hoping it accepts connections ? 16:10:59 haexwise: you can login and install the 13.0 and do an upgrade process to get you to 13.3 16:12:05 How can I get to install the 13.0 ? I didn't find a mirror that has a 13.0 directory for the kernel files etc. 16:12:17 E.g. http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ 16:12:18 Title: Index of /pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ 16:14:39 I just get this: 16:14:42 freebsd-update: Directory is not on a persistent filesystem: /var/db/freebsd-update 16:20:02 the server you are trying to update, does the admin give you this option? there could be areas in this that do not allow you to use something OTHER than linux 16:22:00 It's a VPS that is operated by Scaleway but I use it through a reseller. The installation options are only Linuxes but I can boot a FreeBSD rescue with version 11.4 12.3 and 13.0. I have full write access and can store cat pictures on the disk if I want to (: 16:49:37 anyone ? 17:39:34 haexwise: you may succeed in such challenge, but appears you will need manual intervention (which is not desirable) frequently. Not sure they have already implemented support for FreeBSD as deployable images. 17:39:45 Have you contacted support? https://feature-request.scaleway.com/posts/92/freebsd-and-openbsd-images-for-instances 17:39:46 Title: FreeBSD and OpenBSD images for instances · Scaleway Feature Requests 17:41:36 haexwise: I dont know much about the provider you are using, so I cannot be much of assistance. 17:44:26 o/ 17:44:33 haexwise: http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ 17:44:34 Title: Index of /pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/ 18:08:33 cybercrypto I don't use Scaleway directly but Oneprovider I can only see it's Scaleway underneath through IP. Given that Oneprovider really has very frequent mangement tool issues for reinstall I am actually quite happy that I can boot into FreeBSD ISO but I think asking them for an install is hopeless 18:18:02 haexwise, I am not quite following the details of the problem you are having but I have this reference saved that might provide peripheral assistance to you. Possibly. Maybe. https://gist.github.com/ctsrc/9a72bc9a0229496aab5e4d3745af0bb9 18:18:03 Title: Install FreeBSD 14.0 on Hetzner · GitHub 18:19:20 Hetzner has the same problems now in that they no longer directly support FreeBSD. But as described there they do provide a Debian rescue system. On which one can run qemu to run a FreeBSD installer. Using this allows installing FreeBSD through that chain. 18:19:32 I think it is a very clever way to do things. 18:22:47 Re-reading through... Since you can boot FreeBSD 13.0 I would think you could install manually and have a good result. These docs may be useful: https://wiki.freebsd.org/MasonLoringBliss/ZFSandGELIbyHAND 18:22:48 Title: MasonLoringBliss/ZFSandGELIbyHAND - FreeBSD Wiki 18:24:09 I would recommend walking through this on a local machine to gain the hands on experience and confidence for doing it where you have full access and then doing it on the remote datacenter machine should be straight forward. I have installed this way and it works well. 19:30:05 rwp thank I'll try 20:33:10 lw, ping 21:25:36 how do i split /etc/installerconfig up into sub files and include them? 23:20:13 polyex, what's that file for? The name doesn't ring any bell. 23:20:30 man bsdinstall. it's where you can script your install 23:20:39 unattended install, non interactive 23:36:45 Well, part of the "script" command parameter is a #!/bin/sh script filename if I read the documentation correctly, so you can use the "." sh builtin to refer to additional files. Does that do what you want? Otherwise you'll have to explain in more detail what problem you're trying to solve. 23:43:28 lemme test 23:51:08 (Note that those additional files must contain shell commands and builtins only, if that wasn't clear. 23:51:11 =