00:03:20 <markmcb> V_PauAmma_V: no, it was detailed notes from someone close to development.
00:13:51 <alepzi> failed to chown ... bad file descriptor <- what can cause that over and over in a jail during pkg install ...? that mean jail ran out of limited resources or?
00:33:00 <alepzi> failed to chown ... bad file descriptor <- what can cause that over and over in a jail during pkg install ...? that mean jail ran out of limited resources or?
01:18:30 <alepzi-> anyone use grafana on freebsd?
01:47:58 <alepzi> anyone use grafana on freebsd? there's a datasource plugin i need but it isn't built for freebsd so i'm trying to build it myself but having probs. it uses something called cypress to build but that doesn't support freebsd. quickwit-datasource is the plugin i need on freebsd if anyone can pls help??
01:55:11 <alepzi> https://github.com/quickwit-oss/quickwit-datasource is what i'm trying to build on freebsd
01:55:12 <VimDiesel> Title: GitHub - quickwit-oss/quickwit-datasource: Quickwit data source for Grafana
02:04:50 <lw> markmcb: if you're really curious you could have a look at the commits from 14.0 but that's rather a lot of reading :-)  https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/log/?qt=range&q=releng%2F14.0..stable%2F14
02:04:51 <VimDiesel> Title: src - FreeBSD source tree
09:44:35 <meandrain> Any idea if I move some FreeBSD jails on FreeBSD 10.x to a machine that runs FreeBSD 14, it will run without having to upgrade the jail instances ?
09:49:26 <futune> meandrain, the kernel contains modules for compatibility with various earlier freebsds
09:49:35 <futune> i think this will work
09:50:39 <futune> options 	COMPAT_FREEBSD10	# Compatible with FreeBSD10
09:50:43 <futune> in GENERIC
09:51:20 <kfv> Unlike many other operating systems, backward compatibility is a real thing here in FreeBSD.
09:52:01 <kfv> Not saying others ain't good, but I've had to struggle a lot with backward compatibility (and I still do) but almost never had an issue when running FreeBSD.
11:00:10 <alepzi> i'm trying to get a grafana plugin (https://github.com/quickwit-oss/quickwit-datasource) to build on freebsd. i tried mage -v but it only built for other platforms, not freebsd. can anyone help pls?
11:31:50 <meandrain> Is it possible to get this error when importing a newer zfs pool on an older freebsd system (because of zfs version mismatch) ?            cannot import 'sys': one or more devices is currently unavailable
11:46:35 <TommyC> meandrain: what tool are you using to import hte newer zfs pool?
11:52:39 <meandrain> zfs import
11:52:45 <meandrain> I mean zpool import
12:54:32 <rwp> meandrain, "zpool import" (which confusingly lists what could be imported rather than doing an import) lists what it finds.  Did it list any devices?  Or was it simply missing devices?  Can you paste the output?
12:54:45 <rwp> Otherwise it sounds like missing devices rather than version problems.
12:55:10 <meandrain> I solved the problem by recreating the pool that has that problem
13:04:30 <markmcb> about a week into using poudriere. i noticed an update to a port that many other ports depend on will create a cascade of rebuilds. last night 87 packages were rebuilt. but when i "pkg upgrade" on the systems using this repos, there will be only a handful of updates, e.g., 6. is that expected? i.e., why rebuild all those packages if they're not also deployed?
13:17:01 <MiniontobyPI> Hey hi! Is there any chance that I can get my freebsd v12.2 upgraded to the latest version?
13:18:05 <MiniontobyPI> We ordered an machine at a hosting compnay and we were unable to get openbsd working, so we installed freebsd, but it seems it is on v12.2 and it seems to be EOL, so I cannot install any packages
13:18:30 <MiniontobyPI> Please help me out, since I really want to be able to use this machine
13:24:15 <voy4g3r2> MiniontobyPI: you have two optins, can upgrade or do a fresh install. are you able to get to "console" of this device? https://www.freebsd.org/where/
13:24:17 <VimDiesel> Title: Get FreeBSD | The FreeBSD Project
13:24:26 <voy4g3r2> pick your version based on the cpu arch. and enjoy :)
13:24:47 <voy4g3r2> my recommendation would also to get the network inforamtion BEFORE you do the install... if dhcp vs static and such
13:43:38 <rwp> MiniontobyPI, If it were me I would upgrade from 12 to 13 following all of the release note items.  I vaguely recall one must update the boot loader at that step but that might be wrong. That's an easy step and then you have security support.
13:44:02 <rwp> Then upgrade from 13 to 14 at your leisure (I am still on 13 myself for another month or so).
13:44:43 <rwp> Remember that FreeBSD "base" is a cohesive entity that upgrades all together, making it very reliable for doing system upgrades.  Then as a separate step upgrade the pkg ports.
13:56:11 <MiniontobyPI> voy4g3r2: I personally only have assh
13:57:36 <MiniontobyPI> The provider only supplies you with freebsd 12.2 img, but there is an option to upload your own img, however, as we have seen with openbsd, there is no assurance that it works
13:57:48 <MiniontobyPI> But my friend does have an console, I believe
14:02:32 <MiniontobyPI> I guess downloading a new one is the best, I guess
14:03:40 <MiniontobyPI> rwp: the machine is a fresh machine, just 2 days old. So there is no benefit in upgrading by using relaese notes, since there is nothing on the machine atm, since I wasn't able to get sudo and nano
14:16:16 <meandrain> I am trying to use this script to clean zero size zfs snapshots:   https://github.com/fracai/zfs-rollup/blob/master/clearempty.py      but running it in test mode says it has no snapshots to remove. Any idea why ?
14:16:17 <VimDiesel> Title: zfs-rollup/clearempty.py at master · fracai/zfs-rollup · GitHub
14:16:44 <rwp> MiniontobyPI, The advantage would be that you would have a FreeBSD 13 machine then.  If the provider does not provide you with a 13 installer then you can upgrade and the result will be the same.
14:37:05 <MiniontobyPI> oke, but how would I do it?
14:50:25 <voy4g3r2> MiniontobyPI: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.3R/relnotes/
14:50:27 <VimDiesel> Title: FreeBSD 13.3-RELEASE Release Notes | The FreeBSD Project
17:12:17 <mns> Using 'drill any some.domain' I should be able to get the A, CNAME, MX, TXT, and any other records of some.domain, yes?
17:13:12 <mns> In the manpage, the example usage shows "drill mx miek.nl"
17:13:27 <mns> I'm just replacing 'mx' with 'any'
17:20:10 <lts> Not many DNS servers will answer your any
18:39:54 <kevans> r
21:40:15 <ferz> Hi.  I'm using pkg pgbackrest but I've a trouble: when I run it from shell it works fine, while then it's executed from cron it fails to read config file even if there is --config=/usr/local/etc/pgbackrest/conf.d/mydb.conf option in the crontab line.
21:40:42 <ferz> How could it be fixed?
21:42:27 <TommyC> ferz: do you have the exact error message?
21:56:23 <ferz> TommyC: yes: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/25638
21:56:25 <VimDiesel> Title: magnet_web paste from Someone at 217.168.150.38...
22:00:47 <ferz> TommyC: FreeBSD 13.3
22:06:49 <polyex> i'm trying to get a grafana plugin (https://github.com/quickwit-oss/quickwit-datasource) to build on freebsd. i tried mage -v but it only built for other platforms, not freebsd. can anyone help pls?
22:50:27 <polyex> any Go coders around?
23:47:57 <polyex> i had a bhyve startup cmd that worked fine but when i changed -m 1G to 2G now i get Unable to setup memory (22) error but sudo top says 50GB free
23:57:41 <polarian> So I know OpenBSD is strongly against GPL and copyleft... but does FreeBSD believe in a similar idea? or does FreeBSD not care.
23:57:52 <polarian> I notice the default cc is clang on FreeBSD...
23:57:57 <lw> polarian: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/license-guide/
23:57:58 <VimDiesel> Title: FreeBSD Licensing Policy | FreeBSD Documentation Portal
23:58:06 <polarian> lw: ah there is a doc for it
23:58:07 <polarian> oops
23:58:37 <polarian> apologies for missing it, and thanks for the link :)
23:59:03 <lw> and yes, part of the justification for replacing gcc with llvm was the license