01:09:33 my volume keys decided to randomly start working 0_0 01:09:36 no idea why 01:10:04 lw: i'm interested 11:34:56 sfox: across an update, or completely at random? 16:16:51 hi folks, quick question: i logged into freebsd after a long while, did pkg updates and did updates that are mismatched with my kernel version and borked the entire system. pkg(1) itself cannot even work properly (pkg-static works) cause a ton of symlinks to .so files are missing. any way to recover or should i just fresh install? 16:18:30 trev: if it's no real hassle to 'just fresh install', i'd go with that 16:18:39 trev: assuming you fixed whatever caused the wrong packages to be installed, try "pkg-static upgrade -f" to reinstall the correct version of everything 16:19:46 i wouldn't reinstall for a pkg problem, at worst you can just delete all packages and start again 16:36:09 lw: i didn't fix it. somehow the pkg versions are using a newer kernel 16:36:26 i suppose that is the route to fix - getting it to install only the versions from my kernel version 16:37:09 i am on a 14 install from src that is from before the RELEASE of 14, so maybe that is the issue 16:41:52 trev, That sounds to me like you have not completed the base upgrade. "freebsd-version -kru" But I think you need to "freebsd-update install" to finish the upgrade. That's "freebsd-update -r XX.Y-RELEASE upgrade" "freebsd-update install" "reboot" "freebsd-update install" a second time after the reboot to complete the upgrade of base. Then "pkg upgrade -f" or pkg-static should upgrade pkgs. 16:43:54 rwp: i did try `freebsd-update install` but it told me i already am on the release. let me write these commands down and then reboot into freebsd. thanks 16:43:56 Since base is a cohesive bundle of files it should reboot okay to the new kernel in base and then able to complete the upgrade of base. And after that the pkg/pkg-static upgrade -f should bring in the associated precompiled ports pkgs for the oldest supported point kernel which for 14 is 14.0 so no problem. (But right now in 13.3R the oldest is 13.2Rfor example.) 16:45:22 "freebsd-version -kru" provides the three useful versions of the installed kernel, the running kernel, the userland. 16:46:54 Hmm... https://bsd.to/ is timing out again for me right now. Sigh. 16:52:27 rwp: I'm on a 14.0-CURRENT so I can't use freebsd update 16:52:40 Ah... Gotcha. 18:03:16 I give up. Gotta reinstall! 18:04:01 There must've been some weird update where pkg needed openssl 3.0.9. I install it from ports and then it tells me it also needs openssl 1.1.1 but they conflict... 20:07:09 trev: /usr/sbin/pkg didn't work either? It's pkg(7), and is only used to bootstrap pkg(8) (which also gets you pkg-static). 20:08:04 It sounds like you're on -CURRENT since it's complaining about newer kernel version than what you have available, though. 20:10:43 Ah, reading the backlog helps.. 20:11:14 Well, scrolling down so that there's a backlog to see is what really helped :P