01:09:25 nmz: Aah, gotcha - yeah, I have a habit of doing that :) 03:34:18 just got a first-gen ThinkPad E14 and I'm getting the itch to check out FreeBSD for the first time since I stopped using it as a desktop OS back in like 2017. I think it's going to have the RTL8822CE wireless chipset. seems like that could be a problem? 03:34:54 i don't know. can you use ethernet? 03:34:56 guessing I can forget about bluetooth support especially if I have to hand off the PCIe device to wifibox 03:35:40 I wouldn't buy a laptop just to be constantly tethered to a wired connection 03:37:28 if you are using wifibox you probably can forget about BT support, yes. 03:38:07 I'll just use Linux if I can't get at least wifi working, but preferably bluetooth as well. just wondering if anyone else has this chipset and can comment on the rtw88 driver. does the same driver handle both wifi and bt? 03:41:09 there's a chance this machine will have an intel 9560 or AX201 but it seems like those are higher-end chipsets, and I've got the low-end (Core i3) configuration of this ThinkPad. going to boot into this Linux liveUSB and confirm through lspci though 03:44:42 tm512: check out the net/realtek-re-kmod driver 03:52:16 debdrup: that seems to be specific to ethernet 03:52:48 Oh, yeah that's right. Sorry, brain not working too well on too little sleep. 03:58:48 it seems like wifi will work through wifibox, just internally debating whether I'm willing to sacrifice bluetooth support (or go out of my way to buy a USB dongle that is supported), or if I should just go the boring route and install Linux 04:07:17 it appears that I can swap the wireless out for one that FreeBSD supports, assuming there are any that fit in this slot where both wifi and bluetooth are supported 04:09:19 dunno exactly what the slot is called, I just know that it's PCIe and it's similar to an M.2 slot with a different key 04:09:36 M.2 AE? 04:09:40 I have a few of those 04:09:46 atheros, intel 04:13:16 looks like it. this is one of the cards pulled from an E14: https://www.ebay.com/itm/404108505793 04:13:17 Title: Lenovo ThinkPad 14" E14 Gen 1 Genuine Laptop Wireless WiFi Card 02HK700 | eBay 04:13:28 oh it even says A and E 04:26:00 if I do end up using wifibox I wonder if I could hack something up to have the VM pair with bluetooth speakers and like, expose it as a pipewire sink to the host. assuming pipewire is actually usable without too many caveats on FreeBSD 05:18:41 so this laptop does indeed have the RTL8822CE. turns out if I give the wifi over to wifibox, the bluetooth radio is connected over USB, not PCIe, so wifibox wouldn't take it over 06:32:01 aha 12:23:07 I wish you all good progress in this new year 2024. 12:51:50 Aedil: thanks, also how about giving a kind donation to the foundation? :) 14:30:37 I've encounterd my first 4K drive and I'm mixing it in with 512 sector drives. I found out with gpart restore failed. Please review my math at the end. I think this is the correct way to make the paritions on two drives identical in size: https://dan.langille.org/?p=7791&preview=1&_ppp=81b06e73eb 14:30:39 Title: Adding another pair of drives to a zpool mirror on FreeBSD – Dan Langille's Other Diary 15:06:01 Hello everyone! I bought an ODROID H3 and installed FreeBSD 14. It will serve as (manually set-up) NAS, mostly for backups (using restic upon ZFS). The board has an Intel N5105 with integrated graphics, and I'd like to attach it to my TV via HDMI to play media or streaming (via the browser, YouTube etc.) which I would like to "remotely control". I thought of something like RustDesk for remote control, 15:06:07 but that is only available for Linux, not FreeBSD. is there any chance to passthrough the iGPU(!) with bhyve to a Linux guest running Xorg? or any other ideas - like Xorg on the FreeBSD host with VNC? (don't know if that will be a pleasure for video viewing) 15:07:37 albertus: have you considered Kodi? i'm not sure if this runs on freebsd off hand though, but i think it does basically what you want. -- you should be able to pass through the gpu though 15:08:24 lw: you mean Kodi primarily for remote control, instead of something like RustDesk? 15:08:52 albertus: i was thinking kodi connected to the TV then control it with... uh, something? (i'm assuming it supports that somehow, but maybe not?) 15:09:10 oh it has a web interface 15:09:36 I thought of remotely contorlling with other devices like Laptops, smart phones etc. (Android, iOS) 15:10:24 there are some sources for Kodi on FreeBSD, I can give it a try 15:10:33 albertus: https://kodi.wiki/view/Web_interface says the web interface can do remote control 15:10:35 Title: Web interface - Official Kodi Wiki 15:11:03 regarding iGPU passthrough with bhyve, though, I am not sure it will work, since most passthrough guides speak of PCIe devices. is an integrated GPU a PCIe device? 15:11:05 but i've never actually used kodi (on freebsd or anywhere else), i'm just vaguely aware it does seem to do what you want 15:12:43 albertus: i'm sure it must be a PCIe device, but check 'pciconf -lv' to be sure 15:14:13 i remember someone had issues trying to pass through an NVidia GPU though... i think these can sometimes behave in odd ways that bhyve/vmm.ko doesn't like 15:16:02 I will take a look, thanks for the quick ideas so far 15:20:43 albertus: how are you getting on with the H3 in general? i was thinking about buying either one of those or the H3+ 15:23:20 I just started installing FreeBSD, which was breeze after offline-carrying (via USB thumbdrive) the pkg for pkg and realtek-re-kmod. haven't set up anything else yet. I thought the price tag for H3+ over H3 was too much higher for just 0.1 GHz or so 15:24:59 dstolfa: i do this in reverse by having /src/src.git and /src/ports.git and cloning from there, but maybe i should switch to worktree... 15:25:03 er, wrong channel 15:25:18 It seems that new 12T - 4K drive is 8K smaller than my existing drives. I wonder how ZFS would have reacted if I was using whole drives instead of partitions? 15:28:32 lw: `pciconf -lv` indeed shows a device called JasperLake UHD Graphics. now hopefully that is on a different "channel" (don't remember the exact term - but there was something that could only be passed through in its entirety, I think) 15:33:22 there's Kodi 20.3 (seems current) in the packages. :) should I jail it? 15:41:57 albertus: if you're running it natively (not on bhyve) i would jail it, although it might want some devices passed into the jail to access the display... not really sure how this works 16:21:20 I added all the partitions to https://dan.langille.org/2024/01/27/adding-another-pair-of-drives-to-a-zpool-mirror-on-freebsd/ - let's see who can give feedback on properly alignment. 16:21:21 Title: Adding another pair of drives to a zpool mirror on FreeBSD – Dan Langille's Other Diary 16:51:27 dvl: when does zfs do the balance of the mirrors, is it only happening on new writes, or does existing data is moved? 16:51:44 shdw: only when new data is written 17:12:39 shdw: O^ that 17:15:17 shdw: Current allocation is here: 2.65GB written https://bin.langille.org/?e892e88a0a027cd8#6omcDzApcYWaAuWAuWxyAJdaWjcTQCoPaa5E66jp7oVN 17:15:18 Title: PrivateBin 17:28:13 shdw: Also, if you look at the old post (see link at above URL), the data did eventually even out. 17:50:56 albertus: i don't think GPU passthrough is supported. i would recommend using your device to serve the data over the network (either a media sharing program or NFS) and use some other device to actually render it, such as roku 17:51:18 jmnbtslsQE: really? i thought i'd seen people using this successfully 17:52:02 not sure, just based on https://wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve/pci_passthru 17:52:03 Title: bhyve/pci_passthru - FreeBSD Wiki 17:52:29 when i last searched on it, i don't remember any successful efforts for it to work 17:52:29 ah :-( 17:58:26 on the other hand, https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/relnotes/ does mention that it works, but i guess it's basically experimental and users will need to venture into it 17:58:28 Title: FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE Release Notes | The FreeBSD Project 18:47:35 if i want to pci passthrough my second nic, how do i keep the bhyve host from attaching to it? 18:48:29 oh, pptdevs 19:03:00 reminder: BSDCan 2024 CFP closes Feb 12th https://www.bsdcan.org/2024/papers.php 19:03:01 Title: BSDCan 2024 - Call for papers 20:19:31 Is anyone available that can help Servicing a quadro nvs 5000m on FreeBSD 14? 20:19:52 i have vesa working on KDE but not nvidia-drm-kmod because its too -new- 20:20:05 not the card the cards a 2012 model card 20:57:55 What would be a good way to figure out why an SSH session to a local server is extremely laggy? 'top' shows high idle, and nealy 50gb free of 64gb RAM, 0 swap used. 21:07:05 how's the pings? 21:07:26 below 1ms 21:08:51 I can even go to the console in the server room and it seems to be working perfectly fine. No lag at the machine itself. Loading the websites on that server seem to be just fine as well. SSH is the only thing that's really lagged. I can type a command and it takes a few seconds to show it all on the terminal. 21:28:24 i've seen this issue is related to when theres a high traffic infrastructure 21:28:40 just because it uses a router doesnt mean its not that the router may have high traffic internet 21:29:06 means your thinking ok so its nothings doing anything #correction the operating system is 21:29:53 im downgrading to 9.3 from 14 for my quadro card , the HDD Partitioners broken.... 21:29:57 : () 21:30:12 i made sure it works 2012 machine, 2012 bsd 21:32:21 if anyone also wants to help figure out the ipv6 information like class/prefix: hsd1.il.comcast.net 21:32:21 DNS IPV4 : 75.75.75.75 75.75.76.76 21:32:22 DNS IPV6 : 2001:558:feed::1 2001:558:feed::2 21:32:46 ive figured these if you see -> Windows is asking users to use a Private DNS instead of associating with the Comcast DNS 21:32:54 2012 was a long time ago in bsd land 21:34:08 fspkwon: you want to know you ipv6 info from comcast? does your bsd box get an ipv6 address? 21:34:34 xa0z: not sure if this would help, but you could try truss -dp $PID on the sshd process for that connection on the remote machine, and see where time is being lost 21:34:38 @rtprio all computers do - atleast now they do #windows95 im guessing> 21:35:17 fspkwon: all computrs do what? 21:35:22 rtprio what like if they have a driver for the gt630m nvidia and im using the 21:35:26 ipv6 21:35:32 open source bsd driver 21:35:41 its skipping probe saying the cards too old 21:35:44 fspkwon: are you asking about ntworks or video cards? 21:35:48 its a 2012 quadro 21:35:52 oh im here for video thats why 21:36:04 then why are you blabbing on about comcast dns 21:36:49 no lag or ssh ipv6 - is it for a service daemon 21:37:00 jmnbtslsQE: I'm not exactly sure how I'd be able to know where time is being lost... 21:37:03 openssh using ipv6 am i right or did i just fail 21:37:10 :*( 21:37:18 "Mehem Mehem!" 21:43:32 xa0z: well it'll show timestamps, so it will at least show when it reads/writes on the socket and likewise on the terminal. so you may be able to see which side involves a delay 21:44:40 you could open a tmux session, split the window, and do while true; sleep 0.5; tmux send-keys -t 0.0 'a'; done or similar to send a key every half second and observe what's happening, including tcpdump on the remote side. 21:45:27 xa0z: is it every terminal? 21:45:32 i imagine there is a natural plausible cause for what's happening in your situation, but personnally no idea 21:46:07 rtprio: It's only this one server. I've even stopped all services except ssh and netif and it's the same. 21:46:53 It's just over ssh. At the physical machine, it doesn't appear anything is wrong. 21:49:22 ah the usb-memstick image of freebsd 9 doesnt recognize the hard disk 21:49:29 but itll let you install to it 22:03:55 handbook on jails: I followed the thin jail setup guide with nullfs mounts. I had to twiddle some stuff until I found that in the .conf for the jail I'd need to say path = "/usr/local/jails/thinjail-nullfs-base" rather than path = "/usr/local/jails/containers/${name}". can someone double-check, regarding the suggested fstab right below? see 22:04:00 https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/jails/#creating-thin-jail-nullfs 22:04:01 Title: Chapter 17. Jails and Containers | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 22:10:12 what's more, I also think the instruction `ln -s skeleton/usr/local usr/local` is wrong, it should be `ln -s ../skeleton/usr/local usr/local` 22:10:12 OMG it worked: GUID FreeBSD 9 on 2012 Dell Latitude E6350 22:10:20 just spamming firewire errors 22:27:09 albertus: i think you are right about both. the terminology seems it could be slightly unusual since customarily the root directly might be named someting like 'thinjail' not 'thinjail-nullfs-base', which one might think would be the thing that's mounted 22:50:19 jmnbtslsQE: thanks. I've edited it within the Github editor and submitted a PR 22:52:17 the .conf is a little inconsistent in using or not using ${name} thought 22:52:24 s/ght/gh/ 23:41:45 xa0z: i just use mosh now, but that's since i'm 150-250ms away from my server 23:45:01 My server is around 300-400 feet from me. 23:46:26 rtprio: the weird thing is, the jails on the same server all seem to work okay. I can SSH to them without any issues. :/