02:55:28 Hey all! Is there a way to make FreeBSD sleep an attached (HDMI) screen after inactivity, when just using the ttys, and no desktop environment? I just want it to stop outputting a signal without me having to unplug the cable or turn off the screen 03:31:45 Axman6: Despite the channel name, I'd ask the folks in #freebsd-xorg on EFnet. 04:07:30 giusb: I have `rdr pass inet proto {tcp, udp} from ! to any port {80, 443} -> $jail_caddy_ip` where is a table containing the host IP's (host plus vnet jails). otherwise all http/s traffic pipes into caddy instead of heading out of the box. caddy is a loopback jail though. is yours vnet? anyway, going to bed. hope this helps 05:48:19 mason: Thanks, I'll connect sometime soon in that case 06:03:46 good morning 07:20:49 Do you guys know of a good BSD licensed version of twitter bootstrap? 07:22:45 lisbeths: you mean like this thing here https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.0/about/license/ ? 07:22:47 Title: License FAQs ยท Bootstrap 07:25:28 MIT License != BSD License 07:26:29 Mit License < BSD License -> 10 07:26:51 MIT license > BSD License => 10 07:28:00 s/->/=> 07:28:07 u what mate 07:29:04 MIT License != BSD License. 08:21:56 BSD licensed? copyfree she means? 08:22:07 out of curiousity what do BSDers use for services? 08:22:14 given that theres no systemd 08:24:40 init 08:27:19 hmm 08:28:48 well I was hoping to start some rclone mounts services as a user, not as system 08:31:28 Then you'll probably use FUSE. 08:33:44 i'll use runit 08:34:17 I was hoping there was something I could use crontab @restart from 08:34:54 ... 08:36:57 xa0z: whats wrong? 08:38:04 you still need service supervision, FUSE has nothing to do with it 08:39:42 lol 08:41:24 whats simplest/easiest, perp,runit,s6,daemontools? 13:51:33 I am using newsyslog to rotate several Apache log files 13:52:17 I want to rotate all of them @ 23:00 , how can I do that and only have newsyslog generate a single sigusr to Apache 13:52:39 aka, I don't want multiple graceful reloads for each log file 13:53:51 or do I need to set each log file at different times, aka 23:01 , 23:02, 23:03, with the N flag to not signal Apache 13:54:01 and only let the last rotate log to signal Apache ? 14:17:50 asked differently: If I have 5 entries in newsyslog, all running @ 23:00 , do they run in parallel or one after another ? 15:03:09 dch: have you ever tested building tailwindcss on arm64? 15:06:42 drobban: yes, it doersn't work, the nodejs stuff is a catastrophe 15:08:48 fuck me.... as i suspected. I hated node before, it gets further up on my shit list 15:09:21 dch.... seems like I perhaps should start looking on how you have used simple.css instead. 15:10:04 you can npm install tailwind on arm64 just fine, then softlink the name back in 15:10:19 ummmm 15:10:32 drobban: I have one here, let me look what I did 15:10:42 O already found it ;) 15:11:05 no, for arm64, I made no notes for that IIRC 15:11:07 npm install -D tailwindcss@latest postcss@latest autoprefixer@latest @tailwindcss/forms 15:11:12 oo okey 15:11:38 ln -s ~/node_modules/.bin/tailwind _build/tailwind-freebsd-arm64 15:11:39 dch: thx! 15:11:42 just those two 15:12:00 thanks! 15:12:14 and should work with node20 but this box used node18 15:12:37 slap me with a wet fish next week if I didn't write a blog post about all this garbage 15:13:27 dch: hahaha ! i will. 15:13:31 ofc with @latest everywhere who knows what garbage gets pulled in and we are back in zero reproducibility land again 15:15:18 dch: yea. Im planning on using my ampere altra to spin up a service using elixir/phoenix... Cant understand how a freaking css framework is so complex it has trouble to build on freebsd and arm64 :D hahaha its freaking crazy 15:16:10 drobban: most of my stuff is ampere + freebsd here, it might be worth cooperating on at least a couple of private packages for tailwind etc 15:16:41 its not possible to do as an official port, but a private one would be quite doable I think 15:16:49 bbl, family stuff 15:17:06 ! sure. cya 15:57:47 Hi all - I'm struggling a bit with understanding freeBSD's network tunables for a mellanox card - is there a utility for finding out acceptable values or docs somewhere? 16:00:48 I'd like to change forward error correction, but I'm not sure what values to use for something like `dev.mce..conf.fec.mode_active: 4` 16:01:31 is there something better than trial and error? 17:59:11 Fhttps://network.nvidia.com/pdf/prod_software/Mellanox_FreeBSD_User_Manual_v3.4.1.pdf 17:59:24 Alloysious seems to be gone, but if they come back... 18:49:27 Also mlx5en(4) 19:20:30 nmz: for service supervision, daemon(8) can do most things 19:44:51 is there rationale for why some ports have a more recent version in quarterly than latest? or is it up to the maintainer to decide? 20:08:25 markmcb: quarterly builds less stuff, so it builds faster 20:40:18 this doesn't match what the handbook says 20:40:37 "the Latest branch provides the latest versions of the packages to the users" 20:41:38 the text in the handbook makes it sound like it's impossible for quarterly to ever be more up to date than latest 20:41:56 unless I'm fundamentally misunderstanding 21:16:48 markmcb, I think what happens is that the Latest build queue is always full and so it takes some time (days, weeks) to get through it while Quarterly has less churn and less build work to do. This creates a situation where a version 123 is placed into both and Quarterly will have it finished while Latest is still working it through the queue. 21:17:10 Which package in particular are you waiting for to get through the build queue? 21:18:32 rwp: thanks. makes sense. no specific concern, i just notice it frequently. it's more of a new user experience issue. it makes freebsd look like it's unstable or broken. 22:14:53 random question prompted by a discussion on another channel 22:15:03 does anyone else still use config(8) to build the kernel? 22:27:47 lw: other than the build-system? 22:27:54 meena: what 22:28:38 it;s still used underneath 22:28:45 oh 22:28:53 yeah i mean if people actually type 'config' at the keyboard 23:02:15 Does anyone know if it's possible to write a keymap entry for a key that produces more than 1 byte? -- The atkbd keyboard driver has a few hardcoded bits for specific keys with a 0xe0 prefix, but i'm having to process keys that have a 0xe0 prefix not covered by the atkbd driver -- moreover, it seems that it never hits that switch statement anyway because state->ks_mode == KS_RAW by default (which seems separate from the keyboard mode set with the normal ioctl(0, 23:02:15 KDSKBMODE, K_RAW) -- which i'm assuming is because it's intercepted by the kbd driver and not passed on to the atkbd driver...