01:14:10 <kenrap> ah crap, stable/14 got another API bump. Need to prep for a poudriere mass packages rebuild
03:19:36 <darwin> is there a tool to resize/move FFS/UFS partitions?
03:30:20 <kenrap> darwin: gpart(8)?
03:30:48 <darwin> is there a graphical one?
03:30:49 <voy4g3r2> has anyone used the program yacc or byacc and tried to find hte man page for LALR(1) that is referenced in these programs?
04:26:32 <parv> voy4g3r2, Closest thing I found was https://www.cs.clemson.edu/course/cpsc827/material/LRk/LALR1.pdf
04:39:13 <voy4g3r2> reminds me of my discrete mathematics days.. in university and programming concepts
04:39:36 <voy4g3r2> if you do a man yacc and then you will see a link to LALR(1) which does NOT exist
04:39:57 <decuser> just reinstalled freebsd, after a few months of pure linux (mint), that was fun and worked much better than my previous experiences, but its good to be back on bsd.
04:40:35 <decuser> i tried 14, but it crashed hard during install/config - I asked on the forums, but how's it going for folks here?
04:40:50 <decuser> I'm doing 13.2 for now
04:41:04 <voy4g3r2> decuser: no issues.. what do you mean by crash install/config
04:41:12 <decuser> kernel panic
04:41:13 <voy4g3r2> was their a particular step in the install, that went boom?
04:41:35 <decuser> after install, but while I was configuring cups 2nd or 3rd boot
04:42:37 <decuser> didn't really dig into it... needed my laptop working and kernel panics are not something I've had many of over the years of messing with freebsd
04:43:00 <decuser> just put 13.2 on and no panics :)
04:43:35 <decuser> prolly try again, another day, but wait until I get my freebsd legs back and remember how stuff's supposed to work
04:46:01 <decuser> my hardware's kinda old, maybe? Thinkpad T430 cerca 2013. i5 quad.
04:46:15 <decuser> works good with 13.2 though
05:06:11 <voy4g3r2> there you go
06:17:06 <rtprio> ddejesus: what's your post in the forums?
06:28:25 <kenrap> rtprio: I'm guessing this: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/how-is-14-doing-for-folks.91636/
06:28:26 <VimDiesel> Title: How is 14 doing for folks? | The FreeBSD Forums
06:51:18 <mane> alright
06:51:35 <mane> i think i'm closer to solving my connectivity problem
06:52:12 <mane> seems my FreeBSD server is slowing only TCP traffic down
06:52:23 <mane> UDP goes in acceptable, normal speeds
08:00:57 <polyex> 14.1
09:15:24 <unixwitch> voy4g3r2: LALR(1) isn't a manual page.  LALR(n) is a type of lookahead left-recursive parser with 1-token lookahead.
09:15:36 <unixwitch> er, n-token lookahead (where n=1 in this case)
09:37:36 <norrland> meena, Remilia> alright thanks (holidays response time =) )
10:47:04 <polyex> trying to set up x and xrdp on a bhyve vm so i can rdp to it. i THINK i got it all configured but it doesn't quite work. xrdp service is running, xrdp-sesman service is running, when i rdp in Xorg starts running, and i got my i3 start script in ~/.config/xrdp/startwm.sh but i don't think it's being invoked for some reason
10:47:11 <polyex> anyone can haz help pls??
11:07:07 * nerozero happy owner of Logitech K845 mechanical, and I like it
11:10:25 <mane> <33
11:11:55 <BarnabasDK> polyex, doesn't xrdp write some log files in your ~/ ?
11:12:14 <polyex> not seeing any in ~
11:13:13 <BarnabasDK> what about the content of the .xsession file in your ~/
11:13:48 <BarnabasDK> I think this should contain the path to your wm
11:13:54 <BarnabasDK> for instance - running xfce
11:14:32 <BarnabasDK> ~$ cat .xsession
11:14:40 <BarnabasDK> mine has
11:15:05 <BarnabasDK> "/usr/bin/startxfce4"
11:15:11 <BarnabasDK> without the quotes
11:15:47 <polyex> you're talking about the file that's in sesman.ini Globals UserWindowManager right?
11:15:58 <polyex> because mine's .config/xrdp/startwm.sh
11:16:24 <BarnabasDK> I am using this on a linux PC currently :-) so not quite the same
11:16:41 <polyex> ah k ya it's different for rdp
11:16:53 <polyex> xrdp runs a headless x, since it's a vm
11:17:00 <BarnabasDK> I know
11:17:20 <BarnabasDK> I use it to remote into a linux box at work
11:17:35 <BarnabasDK> so the same you are trying to do into a vm basically
11:18:40 <polyex> in my .config/xrdp/startwm.sh, i put a touch /home/polyex/scriptran so i can see it's being invoked, but the file doesn't get cretaed
11:18:44 <polyex> created
11:19:52 <BarnabasDK> what about "/var/log/xrdp.log"
11:21:02 <polyex> ya that has tons of noise in it
11:21:09 <polyex> even xrdp-sesman.log
11:24:31 <unixwitch> polyex: i don't know anything about xrdp, but one thing i'd check is perhaps the script needs to be executable and isn't?
11:24:42 <polyex> it's 755 :/
11:24:51 <polyex> good call tho, that snagged me in the past
11:27:24 <polyex> and the touch /path/to/file should make file be created if startwm.sh is run right?
11:45:45 <unixwitch> hmm, i'm getting quite a few clicks with audio playback with a USB audio interface (firefox > pulseaudio > jackd > snd_uaudio)... wonder if i need to increase a buffer somewhere
11:47:06 <unixwitch> ah, mac_priority isn't loaded, that probably doesn't help
11:48:02 <polyex> ListenPort for sesman.ini in man page says path to socket file, but in examples it's a number port
12:11:57 <polyex> so on 1 bhyve vm, rdp works. another bhyve with same config everywhere i test, doesn't work
12:14:46 <polyex> hmm xrdp-sesman errors say there is no x server active on display 10
12:15:05 <polyex> fatal error occurred attempting to start the window manager on display 10, aborting connection
12:16:33 <polyex> yet when i connect with xfreerdp, i see Xorg spin up
12:16:54 <polyex> but then it terminates
12:46:14 <AumShivaya> how to set sound output default to pcm3, but mic rec input to pcm6?
12:59:47 <polyex> i'm so desperate
13:00:30 <polyex> how can it be so hard to get rdp working on bhyve guest?
13:32:17 <AumShivaya> I am having issues
13:32:35 <AumShivaya> pcm6 mixer USB audio mic is set to pbk (playback I am assuming)
13:32:39 <AumShivaya> when it should be set to rec src
14:27:16 <Linux77> merry christmas, a great hug, happiness and realizations...
14:54:17 <polyex> any experts in xrdp xorg? can't get it working in a vm
15:16:19 <Melon> merry x-mas everyone
15:29:19 <polyex> u2
15:33:37 <meena> bahumbug, etc
15:34:57 <polyex> meena you an expert on xorg xrdp and bhyve?
15:35:07 <polyex> can't quuiiite get something cookin
15:55:24 <polyex> need rdp (xrdp, xorg, bhye) help https://termbin.com/p83f
15:57:11 <meena> polyex: my expertise is mostly in vitualization and server software. not really anything desktop
15:57:42 <polyex> i bet rhodium would know
15:57:58 <polyex> doesn't come around much anymore :(
16:20:28 <unixwitch> is it useful to set NFS rsize/wsize for NFSv4 mounts?  the manual page seems to imply it only helps for UDP
16:33:37 <meandrain> [1/1] Fetching pkg-1.20.9.pkg:   3%  295 KiB  51.8kB/s    04:23 ETA
16:33:50 <meandrain> why fetching is so low ?
16:34:40 <unixwitch> meandrain: perhaps the geodns gave you a bad mirror.  you can find a list of mirrors at http://pkg.freebsd.org, and configure the mirror by editing /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf as described (i.e., copying it to /usr/local first)
16:34:41 <VimDiesel> Title: pkg0.nyi.FreeBSD.org
16:35:00 <meandrain> unixwitch: thanks!
16:35:49 <unixwitch> (if you're lucky, you might have a better local mirror that's not listed on that page, universities or large ISPs sometimes host those)
16:42:14 * unixwitch wonders if there's a desktop Signal client that doesn't depend on devel/electron25 (which takes > 3 hours to build)
17:15:49 <meandrain> do you guys use jurnaling for an external drive? Should I format the drive with newfs -U -j drive_name ?
17:23:43 <V_PauAmma_V> Do you mean "format a partition"? I wouldn't newfs the whole drive.
17:24:30 <V_PauAmma_V> (To answer your other question, I don't use UFS at all; my external disk uses ZFS.)
18:39:18 <jbo> hmm... so I have an application which loads a plugin (*.so) during runtime. it works in the debug build but the release build fails to load the plugin. dlopen() errors:
18:39:26 <jbo> failed to open library: Shared object "libspdlog.so.1" not found, required by "libplugin.so"
18:39:51 <jbo> libspdlog.so.1 does indeed not exist. However, ldd shows that my libplugin.so is actually linking to libspdlog.so.1.12 which does exist.
18:39:57 <jbo> also, debug builds work as expected - any ideas?
19:22:10 <CamilleSch> Hello, I uninstalled mysql and installed mariadb, but now every time I start or stop the mysql service I get the following errors: https://bsd.to/VxmW
19:22:12 <VimDiesel> Title: dpaste/VxmW (Plain Text)
19:22:38 <CamilleSch>  Its seems to somehow load certain fish scripts (my login shell) but I have no idea why. The mysql user has nologin as a shell, the permissions of /var/db/mysql/ seem to be in order, the service file is unchanged, no other service does this
19:25:13 <unixwitch> CamilleSch: try running the rc script with sh -x, and see what command is producing that output (you might want to redirect the output to a file since it's usually quite large)
19:30:16 <meandrain> why is zfs better for an external / usb drive ?
19:33:39 <unixwitch> meandrain: checksums to detect data errors (particularly useful on possible poor quality external disks / USB interfaces), copies= feature to allow important data to be recovered even in case of corruption, transparent compression... and why not use ZFS if you have it?
19:34:55 <meandrain> if you have many external drives, you would use the same zfs pool name on all drives ?
19:36:16 <unixwitch> probably not, but if you want to do that you can just import with -R
19:38:07 <unixwitch> or just rename the pool every time you import it, which seems weird but there's nothing particularly wrong with doing that if you have a stack of 20 disks you randomly use one at a time or something
19:40:36 <meandrain> thank you !
19:41:07 <rtprio> maybe i should do copies; this usb drive is out of warranty i suspect and a scrub turns it to degraded
19:44:52 <unixwitch> i feel like copies= has lost a lot of its use cases now almost everything is SSDs (at least in laptops / desktops) but it's probably still useful for this sort of external hdd case
19:45:53 <unixwitch> i do wish you could use copies= with a striped pool and still import with missing disks
19:47:07 <unixwitch> (use case: desktop with 2+ disks where you want the speed increase of a stripe, but you can set copies=2 on /home to avoid losing important data on disk failure)
20:10:48 <unixwitch> hmm, odd static_routes issue after upgrading from releng/14.0 to stable/14:  https://bsd.to/hi2V - this was working fine before, now one of the routes gives 'Invalid argument' on boot
20:10:50 <VimDiesel> Title: dpaste/hi2V (Plain Text)
20:11:26 <unixwitch> but if i add the route by hand after boot, it works fine
20:21:54 <V_PauAmma_V> That smells like a timing issue. What happens if you move ovpn to the end of static_routes=...?
21:37:55 <bsdbandit> good evening my fellow freebsd family
21:38:11 <rtprio> EHLO
21:43:07 <seere> 250-seere Hello rtprio
22:17:55 <decuser> if I have intel hd4000, what options do I have for driver for x? I tried i915, but it was kinda crappy...
22:37:40 <CamilleSch> does this channel have any  public logs?
22:38:47 <parv> None that I know of
23:10:35 <meena> CamilleSch: i thought i remembered a policy of *not* logging, https://wiki.freebsd.org/IRC but i remembered wrong
23:10:36 <VimDiesel> Title: IRC - FreeBSD Wiki
23:11:59 <meena> rtprio, seere i hope you two are patched for CVE-2023-51764
23:35:37 <rwp> CamilleSch, There has not been any more comment on your https://bsd.to/VxmW errors since your last visit to this channel.
23:35:38 <VimDiesel> Title: dpaste/VxmW (Plain Text)
23:36:27 <rwp> Seeing those fish shell errors makes me think that either root's shell has been changed to fish or that some use of "su" rather than "su -" caused undesirable user environment leakage into the root environment.
23:37:19 <rwp> The "service" command should protect against such things but in your paste those were certainly unexpected errors to see.