03:26:13 <ExclamationPoint> anyone have sha256 trusted for FreeBSD repo?
03:26:17 <ExclamationPoint> I want to confirm mine
03:26:50 <ExclamationPoint> file: /usr/share/keys/pkg/trusted/pkg.freebsd.org.2013102301
03:29:09 <ExclamationPoint> or can anyone detail how I can get this from pkg.freebsd.org ?
03:29:16 <ExclamationPoint> the handbook is sparse on details about this
03:42:08 <rtprio> b0170035af3acc5f3f3ae1859dc717101b4e6c1d0a794ad554928ca0cbb2f438
03:45:04 <ExclamationPoint> Thank you, rtprio
03:46:29 <ExclamationPoint> I searched for that value on several search engines and the primary set of results were truenas related and/or malware analysis and that didn't sit right with me
03:46:46 <ExclamationPoint> maybe this should be more prominently fatured like the installation image signatures
07:56:53 <polyex> so i wanna start making installs automated and not manually fill out bsdinstall. so i can script bsdinstall, but apparently i can also make my own script to do it all and skip bsdinstall. how do i choose which to do?
07:58:24 <llua> how much control do you want over how everything is done?
08:02:59 <parv> If I were to do this, I would do the whole thing myself as do not care for the ZFS datasets as they are being created in 13-RELEASE
08:04:10 <parv> (have yet to find decent _explanation_ for parts of /var being in "zroot/ROOT/default" not directly in "/var" dataset)
08:04:17 <polyex> i wanna be able to make a single config file and have that dictate how the install image is set up
08:04:48 <polyex> that's weird parv wtf
08:07:25 <parv> polyex, To see yoursle, install a 13.x-RELEASE in a VM with "Auto ZFS" option; upon boot run: df -h /var* | sort -u
08:07:39 <parv> Sorry, make that: df -h /var/* | sort -u
08:07:54 <polyex> auto zfs in the vm?
08:08:48 <parv> Well, to see where various parts of "/var" are put if interested🤷🏽‍♂️
08:09:56 <polyex> i have zfs on some metal. i'll try running it there. you tried to find out why but noone knew?
08:11:21 <parv> Not here. I tried to look in "bsdinstall" code, but did not find one
08:11:56 <parv> I have yet to ask mailing list
08:25:04 <parv> Asked on Mastodon: https://tech.lgbt/@parvXtl/110881340918873940
08:25:06 <VimDiesel> Title: parv: "#FreeBSD When I installed 13.[01]-RELEASE via "A…" - LGBTQIA+ Tech Mastodon
08:27:48 <llua> pretty sure /var is done that way for boot environments
08:28:36 <parv> llua, Could you expand on that?
08:29:32 <llua> https://wiki.freebsd.org/BootEnvironments
08:29:33 <VimDiesel> Title: BootEnvironments - FreeBSD Wiki
08:30:05 <polyex> https://github.com/lattera/freebsd/blob/master/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/auto that bsdinstall official source?
08:30:06 <VimDiesel> Title: freebsd/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/auto at master · lattera/freebsd · GitHub
08:30:55 <parv> No. That is Lattera's copy
08:32:01 <parv> Try https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/usr.sbin/bsdinstall (or find the FreeBSD's GitHub account)
08:32:02 <VimDiesel> Title: bsdinstall « usr.sbin - src - FreeBSD source tree
08:32:05 <llua> basically to avoid those directories that has a lot of churn
08:33:16 <parv> Somewhere under there: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src
08:33:17 <VimDiesel> Title: GitHub - freebsd/freebsd-src: The FreeBSD src tree publish-only repository. Experimenting with 'simple' pull requests....
08:34:06 <llua> also with /var/log being a dataset, if you revert to an older boot environment, you still have your current logs, not what they were back when the boot environment was created
08:51:16 <parv> package (installed in /usr/local in boot environment) upgrades also causes a lot of churn.
09:04:33 <polyex> so you script bsdinstall to get a new box but then you need pkgs installed. can you put post-system setup shit in the bsdinstall scripts?
09:05:26 <polyex> pkg installs and also config files copied in and maybe some dirs created?
09:08:57 <meena> polyex: bsdinstall scripting has a variable for packages to be installed
09:09:20 <polyex> and config files i need to copy in for those pkgs?
09:09:29 <polyex> and some firewall rules, this and that
09:22:01 <meena> polyex: i don't see a standard way of doing that
10:23:28 <megaTherion> how's ZFS with CMR today? its not recommended to use those disks, right?
10:24:41 <megaTherion> ah sorry, no it was SMR which was evil
13:21:51 <vkarlsen> megaTherion: No filesystem is going to save your disk from having to rewrite the overlapped tracks
13:22:04 <megaTherion> yup true
18:34:20 <V-T60> hello
18:34:21 <V-T60> please help
18:34:29 <V-T60> how to set volume higher than 100?
18:34:46 <V-T60> mixer vol 150
18:35:02 <Kalten> The number means % --- more than 100% is not possible
18:35:12 <V-T60> but i can't hear anything
18:35:19 <elge> there seem to be an embedded amplifier in vlc
18:35:30 <elge> mpv also supports that
18:35:35 <Kalten> absolute silence, or not loud enougth
18:35:51 <V-T60> not loud enough
18:36:03 <V-T60> can i amplify in iridium (chromium)?
18:36:12 <Kalten> Ah: so the audio device is the correct one
18:37:13 <Kalten> if you enter "mixer" in a terminal: are PCM and VOL set to 100?
18:37:33 <V-T60> they are
18:38:00 <V-T60> idk how to open for example this in vlc https://inv.pistasjis.net/watch?v=34CLyRNquGI
18:38:01 <VimDiesel> Title: КАКОВЫ ШАНСЫ МОСКВЫ НА РЕВАНШ НА ВОСТОКЕ? БЕСЕДА С ЮРИЕМ ФЁДОРОВЫМ - Invidious
18:38:23 <V-T60> if this amplifies good
18:39:08 <V-T60> how do i increase iridium volume? isn't that handled by operating system?
18:40:01 <Kalten> The operating system does only handle the mixer, i.e. vol=100 pcm=100 as maximum.
18:43:43 <Kalten> maybe use a plugin for iridium (are there any) to save the video to your disk, and use vlc on that?
18:44:40 <V-T60> it is live translation
18:44:55 <V-T60> s/translation/stream
18:45:53 <V-T60> i can't download that
18:46:52 <Kalten> dismal :-(
18:49:24 <yuripv> see vpc_0db in snd(4) man page
18:49:34 <yuripv> and try decreasing it
18:55:20 <Kalten> sysctl hw.snd.vpc_0db=3
18:55:49 <Kalten> I did not know this one: wau! Thanks a lot, yuripv! :-)
18:55:59 <yuripv> setting it to 3 is likely to produce crappy sound :D
18:57:10 <Kalten> Yes: is 45 by default on my system ;-) I did want so hear a strong effect
19:04:20 <V-T60> thanks!
19:47:33 <RhodiumToad> if you're not getting any decent volume even when turning everything up to max, it may indicate that you have not enabled some hardware-specific i/o pin
20:32:42 <durriee> i had no idea BSD came befire LINUX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix-like#/media/File:Unix_timeline.en.svg
20:32:44 <VimDiesel> Title: Unix-like - Wikipedia
20:35:40 <megaTherion> it did
20:42:32 <durriee> amazin'
20:42:49 <megaTherion> good ol' history :)
20:43:54 <durriee> hehe
23:31:43 <polyex> can jails be used to build a function as a service platform?
23:33:05 <meena> polyex: sure
23:33:49 <meena> polyex: try this: consider jails == container, then say: Can containers to be used to do <things containers are often used for>?
23:34:22 <meena> unless we're talking about some highly Linux specific thing, the answer to that should generally be: Yes.
23:34:25 <polyex> how does that work? afaik functions are only started up for a request then shut back down right? but jails are always running i think?
23:37:00 <RhodiumToad> define "function"
23:37:08 <durriee> hehehe
23:37:18 <polyex> i think it's some code that's started and ran upon a request
23:37:26 <polyex> cloud function anyway
23:37:49 <RhodiumToad> jails don't really "run". a jail can exist even when no process is inside it.
23:38:06 <polyex> ya that's what's confusing me
23:38:29 <polyex> seems like host would need to proxy requests to the right jailed function somehow
23:38:44 <polyex> without having jailed function running persistently
23:38:52 <polyex> kinda like how inetd works i think
23:39:03 <polyex> start a service when request comes in then shut it down when not needed
23:44:24 <sfox> I'm having trouble with net-snmp
23:44:36 <sfox> it won't start and the only thing the logfile says is
23:44:37 <sfox> kvm_openfiles: No such file or directory
23:44:37 <sfox> kvm_openfiles: /dev/mem: No such file or directory
23:49:07 <RhodiumToad> are you running it in a jail?
23:49:11 <RhodiumToad> does /dev/mem exist?
23:50:13 <RhodiumToad> generally speaking reading /dev/mem is largely deprecated, there are sysctl interfaces for at least most of the stuff that might previously have needed it
23:55:13 <sfox> i am running in a jail
23:55:21 <sfox> i think i figured it out getting it running with -r