06:52:21 <concrete_houses> ok need a wee bit of help getting ungoogled-chrome to have audio through plugin earbuds
06:52:47 <concrete_houses> sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=1  have this command
06:53:56 <concrete_houses> when I closed firefox and chrome
06:54:01 <concrete_houses> and opened chrome
06:54:05 <concrete_houses> this would work
07:11:41 <concrete_houses> it worked
07:11:42 <concrete_houses> damn
07:11:53 <concrete_houses> I guess u just have to run it twice so it sticks
07:11:57 <concrete_houses> then open new xterm
07:12:08 <concrete_houses> launch and all good earbuds getting audio
07:12:23 <concrete_houses> freebsd!! it works!! once u make small adjustment!! :)
07:12:32 <concrete_houses> icewm and chrome aw yeah
07:12:43 <concrete_houses> youtube in erabuds so as not to disturb people late
08:17:12 <concrete_houses> if you hae 4 usb disk in zfs raid 0
08:17:16 <concrete_houses> and you save a file
08:17:22 <concrete_houses> does 1/4 go on each disk
08:17:42 <concrete_houses> so when read and get data fast from all disk ast once and assemble into file?
08:20:52 <RhodiumToad> what do you mean by "zfs raid 0"?
08:26:50 <concrete_houses> 4 disks in one long stripe    not mirror or raid 5
08:27:04 <concrete_houses> so say eahc is 4 T and 16T total
08:27:10 <concrete_houses> usb3 connected
08:27:54 <concrete_houses> maybe the term is all 4 in 1 zpool? no redundancy?
08:27:59 <concrete_houses> I think in old days of RAID
08:28:19 <concrete_houses> 0 stripe 1 mirror 5 etc 6=5+1 extra partity disk etc
08:28:59 <concrete_houses> I got scared off of zfs when had it fail I think due o usb reararnging the disk even when used a disk id of some sort
08:29:09 <concrete_houses> some low level ahrdware number
08:29:15 <concrete_houses> I forget uuid was it?
08:29:31 <concrete_houses> anyway I gave up and use ufs with journal
08:29:43 <concrete_houses> /dev/da1p2 on /a (ufs, local, soft-updates, journaled soft-updates)
08:30:09 <concrete_houses> I wonder if I need zfs for getting more speed... but maybe if it breaks I lose all data
08:30:13 <concrete_houses> so trade off
08:30:27 <concrete_houses> network my be slowest moving part anyhow
09:08:42 <meena> concrete_houses: USB would give you quite poor performance to begin with on FreeBSD :(
12:29:06 <RhodiumToad> USB3's not entirely terrible
12:44:12 <meena> RhodiumToad: do we have a proper implementation these days?
12:46:03 <RhodiumToad> what is "proper"?
12:55:22 <meena> RhodiumToad: one that actually delivers the speed USB(3) promises / specifies
12:59:38 <RhodiumToad> I have an external SSD drive which I can get about 2Gbps read performance from on 128kb raw reads, haven't checked if I can get more from pipelining
13:01:33 <RhodiumToad> (I think the rated speed for USB3 is 5Gbps? but with raw reads there's the latency issue)
13:03:55 <RhodiumToad> call it about 232 MB/s (using binary units, 243 in decimal units)
13:34:39 <daemon> hey all a question that really does not have an appropriate room I do not believe ... my daugter and her friends would like me to set them up a minecraft server up ( can do this ... kinda ) but they want me to set it up for 'bedrock edition' not the 'java edition', am I going to have to bhyve bloody windows to get this to work >.> ?
13:35:07 <daemon> most of her friends use xbox or switches not pc's
13:36:04 <daemon> ooh ok
13:36:04 <daemon> https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock
13:36:10 * RhodiumToad wots not of minecraft, sorry
13:36:10 <daemon> so linux not windows well that
13:36:14 <daemon> is a little better at least
13:36:35 <daemon> ;) yeah it the request trough me for a loop as well
13:36:44 <daemon> silly kids, playing the non-pc versions >.>
13:37:19 <daemon> I hope its possible to setup whitelisting so its not totally exposed to the everyone .. guess we will see; lets go bhyve ubuntu
15:29:29 <nimaje> you could try linuxemu and a jail too
16:49:56 <unixman_home> "<concrete_houses> if you hae 4 usb disk in zfs raid 0" <- https://files.eracc.org/uploads/memes/WHY.gif
18:04:19 <meena> 😬
18:39:33 <Macer> 666 nicks when i joined :/
18:39:50 <Macer> go figure for bsd
18:40:31 <Macer> Channel #freebsd: 666 nicks (0 ops, 0 voices, 666 normals)
18:41:47 <la_mettrie> welcome to the coven
18:45:48 <Macer> i just popped in just because i never realized rclone does smb and can be used in fstab
18:46:07 <Macer> i wonder how much performance is lost there but i don't think it matters since mount_smbfs is deprecated
18:46:48 <Macer> i just got it going in an unprivileged proxmox container but think i'm going to try it with a fbsd jail pretty soon just to see if it can be done.
19:17:54 <Midjak> Hello I have a fresh FreeBSD arm generic from this http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/13.1/. When I try to install xorg with pkg I get an error. xorg seems not available . Is it normal ? Is thre something to configure ? I don't believe xorg is not available on this arhitecture
19:17:55 <VimDiesel> Title: Index of /pub/FreeBSD/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/13.1/
19:53:07 <meena> https://portsfallout.com/fallout?port=x11%2Fxorg%24 weird
19:53:09 <VimDiesel> Title: Fallout list - FreeBSD pkg-fallout
19:53:57 <meena> https://www.freshports.org/x11/xorg/ it's not available for armv7, but i don't see why
19:53:58 <VimDiesel> Title: FreshPorts -- x11/xorg: X.Org complete distribution metaport
19:55:30 <Midjak> Ok I see it is available on 12
19:56:10 <Midjak> Thanks. I am still wondering why it is not available for 13 and 14.
19:56:28 <meena> https://www.freshports.org/editors/vim/ gtk flavours are available, so i don't know what's going on
19:56:29 <VimDiesel> Title: FreshPorts -- editors/vim: Improved version of the vi editor (console flavor)
19:58:25 <meena> I've asked some porters
19:58:57 <Midjak> Thanks a lot meena
20:03:15 <meena> funnily enough, wayland has no issues: https://www.freshports.org/graphics/wayland/
20:03:16 <VimDiesel> Title: FreshPorts -- graphics/wayland: Core Wayland window system code and protocol
20:04:22 <Midjak> right. I could try wayland maybe...
20:05:13 <Midjak> How portfallout works ?
20:05:53 <Midjak> I didn't know that
20:09:13 <debdrup> portsfallout.com just parses the pkg-fallout mailing list
20:10:12 <Midjak> ok
20:11:00 <Midjak> so we should the failling build here. I see
20:18:52 <meena> Midjak: so, one of the porters said: x11/xorg-server is broken, some polyfill is missing. They took a crack at fixing it, but they don't have access to the appropriate system with graphics, so they abandoned it.
20:46:16 <Midjak> ok what is a polyfill ?
20:46:45 <Midjak> too bad
20:46:58 <Midjak> I will look wayland so
21:16:40 <rtprio> it's all the rage these days
21:19:33 <parv> Who is raging? I am not raging. YOU ARE RAGING!
21:19:51 <parv> rtprio, Do you use Wayland yourself?
21:21:35 <rtprio> heck yeah
21:39:41 <parvx> ( ... that worked out (better than|that I had not even) expected )
21:40:55 <meena> Midjak: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyfill_(programming) just ignore the javascript part…
21:40:56 <VimDiesel> Title: Polyfill (programming) - Wikipedia
21:44:58 <Midjak> Well I thought it was js stuff
21:46:31 <Midjak> so there is polyfil for ARM or for freebsd ? I am not sure
22:01:48 <meena> Midjak: polyfill is for everything where code is missing
22:02:00 <meena> or in construction: If you have to fill a hole.
22:33:17 <meena> like, think of how some platforms don't have native atomics, or native 128 bit types, so you'd have to work around that
22:34:00 <meena> I'm very distracted, given that this ⬆️ took literally two hours
23:16:28 <Macer> i'm trying to use mount with rclone in fbsd and it keeps telling me bad fs type (rclone)
23:16:50 <Macer> how exactly do i set up rclone as a helper like linux where it was just linking mount.rclone to rclone
23:34:11 <Midjak> ah ok it comes from construction
23:37:59 <meena> Macer: is there a mount_rclone binary anywhere?
23:49:15 <Macer> meena: no. rclone instructions say to rename it
23:49:18 <Macer> well. to link it
23:49:39 <Macer> https://rclone.org/commands/rclone_mount/
23:49:40 <VimDiesel> Title: rclone mount
23:50:26 <Macer> The core Unix program /bin/mount normally takes the -t FSTYPE argument then runs the /sbin/mount.FSTYPE helper program passing it mount options as -o key=val,... or --opt=.... Automount (classic or systemd) behaves in a similar way.
23:50:54 <Macer> rclone by default expects GNU-style flags --key val. To run it as a mount helper you should symlink rclone binary to /sbin/mount.rclone and optionally /usr/bin/rclonefs, e.g. ln -s /usr/bin/rclone /sbin/mount.rclone. rclone will detect it and translate command-line arguments appropriately.
23:51:04 <Macer> this worked fine in linux
23:52:04 <Macer> guess fbsd mount just doesn't call it in a similar fashion