00:00:00 Title: General Information 00:01:21 yeah, I've read all of these 00:02:51 "A Strictly Conforming POSIX Application is an application..." "For the C programming language, shall define _POSIX_C_SOURCE to be 200809L before any header is included" https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap02.html where it says "any header". 00:02:52 Title: Conformance 00:07:34 yeah, but that would seem to exclude having e.g. #include "mylib_private.h" in which the appropriate macros are defined 00:08:23 if you don't do that, then you either have to define them in every source file (ick) or use compiler options (which for some reason some documentation, such as for GNU, discourages) 00:09:03 Personally I think it would be okay to define that in a project local header file but then that project local header file MUST be included first everywhere. 00:10:32 right (that's not an uncommon requirement for project local headers) 00:11:33 for context this is the issue immediately at hand: https://github.com/maxmind/libmaxminddb/issues/318 00:11:36 Title: Misuse of _POSIX_C_SOURCE feature macro · Issue #318 · maxmind/libmaxminddb · GitHub 00:11:36 318 – matcd driver not on boot or fixit floppy FDIV012 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=318 00:14:16 I think VimDiesel may have gotten a little confused on that one. And yes there is a higher expectation for software used as a library than as non-library program code. 00:18:26 Who maintains VimDiesel these days? 00:19:35 now I wonder if it's possible to trap VimDiesel into an infinite loop by putting #nnnnnn into the subject of a bug 00:22:58 That thought had occured to me as well, hence my question. 01:47:05 I am doing a zfs send/receive from A -> B 01:47:38 if I mount the dataset on B but don't touch any files, future zfs send/receive fail saying it has been modified locally 01:48:40 is there a way to see what was modified and/or how to prevent that from happening ? 01:48:47 if I don't mount the dataset then all is fine 08:04:15 hi all 08:08:41 sup 08:47:34 hi guys 08:47:54 i have installed freebsd and i3 with picom 08:48:20 everything works including bluetooth and radeon 6700xt 08:48:43 what do i do with it now? 08:48:54 can i game on this or something? 08:49:36 what do you want to do? 08:50:05 (I don't think fbsd is amazingly popular as a gaming platform...) 08:52:46 i guess i wanna justify spending time learning how this things works 08:53:17 what kind of games do you like? 08:55:56 elden ring 08:56:06 ill take dark souls 1 if doable 08:56:32 in any quantity 08:58:09 I rather doubt the makers of these games release freebsd versions 09:37:49 hello YamatoHD. I use FreeBSD 13.2 with i3 too. I use it to install software in jasil, like xmpp server, dns server, mail server, etc. Ypou can learn a lot with simply try to install and configure software. With jail in case of garbage, you can simple destroy the jal and it over. 10:04:42 "hello YamatoHD. I use FreeBSD 13.2 with i3 too. I use it to install software in jasil, like xmpp server, dns server, mail server, etc. Ypou can learn a lot with simply try to install and configure software. With jail in case of garbage, you can simple destroy the jal and it over." that's cool i guess, im more interested in desktop aspect i guess 10:37:07 the possibilities of FreeBSD in desktop use can be explored for instance by reading a chapter "Finding software" on FreeBSD Handbook (available on the web) 10:37:53 "elden ring" is not supported but as an alternative one can play nethack for instance, by typing ssh nethack⊙ao 11:06:06 there's also like 7 nethack ports 11:12:22 YamatoHD: according to protondb, eldenring supposedly works with proton - except for multiplayer due to anit-cheat-shenanigans; proton or vanilla-wine is best chance to make it work. 11:12:58 *your best chance 11:27:43 YamatoHD, I'm using FreeBSD for Desktop at home and at work from 2009. And sometimes playing games like ezQuake (QuakeWorld), Minecraft and other not modern AAA. 11:30:17 Wine and Wine-Proton can run a lot of games including Elden Ring too. But main question for you it's drivers for Radeon 6700XT. 11:33:04 Where are amdgpu and radeonkms drivers, but I don't know what you need exactly.