00:08:03 <souji> last1: I think you should ask in the forum or on the mailing list. I doubt that you are the first one with these concerns.
00:09:11 <souji> I also found this discussion on GitHub: https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/discussions/14417
00:09:12 <VimDiesel> Title: How do I send a ZFS snapshot to an immutable offsite target? · openzfs/zfs · Discussion #14417 · GitHub
00:33:26 <rwp> For those following along: The scrub completed. No current errors logged!
00:34:53 <rwp> So.., Strange as it is, I am going to say +1 to that serverfault entry by 4oo4 I quoted above of starting a scrub and then suspending it as having worked to clear the error.
01:08:00 <last1> souji: I did...solution turned out to be easier than I expected lol
01:08:05 <last1> I had overcomplicated things
01:08:26 <last1> ssh root⊙112 'zfs send -i zfs/testindex@now6 zfs/testindex@now7' | zfs recv zfs/testindex
01:08:32 <last1> running this from bkp is totally secure
01:17:24 <cedb> hi my firefox got compromised, i get redirect to a typojack site for messenger.com, i installed it from pkg so im not sure like how this is supposed to happen
01:17:41 <cedb> the same profile/extensions on archlinux boxes doesnt have that issue
06:45:23 <A_Curator> I enjoy the sky UI
06:47:03 <A_Curator> did you rectify google
06:47:22 <A_Curator> I noticed the drive uses freebsd code
06:47:37 <A_Curator> maybe they use freebsd only for storage
06:47:43 <A_Curator> on that end
06:48:02 <A_Curator> the UI looks like LCARS
06:48:19 <A_Curator> I really have the feeling of using LCARS
06:48:34 <A_Curator> needs majael barret voice
06:49:05 <A_Curator> can you replace the screen on my phone
06:49:32 <A_Curator> welcome
06:50:30 <A_Curator> can you replace the screen on my phone
06:52:00 <A_Curator> maybe just get a new phone
06:53:06 <A_Curator> the thing that bugs me is the apps using cookie
06:53:34 <A_Curator> for that only chrome seems useful if I have any intention on privacy
06:54:07 <A_Curator> because if I change ip app dont get logged out
06:54:29 <A_Curator> it needs to for security
06:55:03 <A_Curator> otherwise any ip used potentially can be logged in
06:55:37 <A_Curator> see what I'm saying
06:55:57 <A_Curator> know what I mean verne
06:56:10 <A_Curator> that is scared stupid
06:56:36 <A_Curator> to think you attract a world of crooks by using easily exploitable software
06:56:40 <A_Curator> cookie
06:57:05 <A_Curator> all they need to do is snag the cookie after it assosiated eith oasseord entry
06:57:20 <A_Curator> no need of any knowing password
06:57:29 <A_Curator> see
06:57:41 <A_Curator> get better dead drop security
06:57:46 <A_Curator> get better
06:57:54 <A_Curator> you good bro
06:57:57 <A_Curator> get better
06:58:50 <A_Curator> we dontneed to be gravitating the world to the darkside by rewarding crooks
06:59:03 <A_Curator> the cookie based global communism
06:59:19 <A_Curator> cops are dogshit
06:59:37 <A_Curator> that crackhead under the bridge thinks you need cops
07:00:01 <A_Curator> they use a computer like you see in movie legeion
07:00:22 <A_Curator> and no it isnt 100 percent
07:01:05 <A_Curator> even bitcoin I can forsee getting hacked
07:01:26 <A_Curator> ntfs hive files
07:01:49 <A_Curator> I can use an army
07:02:08 <A_Curator> believing in cops is deluded
07:02:42 <A_Curator> status quo a bunch of delusioned dogs insist they are right
07:03:09 <A_Curator> they will kill you thats what coos do
07:03:21 <A_Curator> they will kill you that's what cops do
07:03:44 <A_Curator> it is why I compared them to borg drones
07:04:15 <A_Curator> channel ops serve the same general role
07:05:07 <A_Curator> some delusional member of a hive presses !ops like 911
07:05:24 <A_Curator> only on IRC it is not lethal
07:06:16 <A_Curator> meth heads will be quick to argue pro cops against you dunno why
07:07:06 <A_Curator> these are scim the cops were supposed to get rid of allthe more why yougot to be delisional to beleibe in cops
07:07:24 <A_Curator> these are scum the cops were supposed to get rid of all the more why you got to be delisional to beleive in cops
07:07:38 <A_Curator> these are scum the cops were supposed to get rid of all the more why you got to be delusional to beleive in cops
07:09:10 <A_Curator> I would like to enjoy more the UI
07:09:18 <A_Curator> for LCARS
07:09:26 <A_Curator> get better security
07:09:39 <A_Curator> don't be a deaddrop
07:10:22 <A_Curator> maybe it is time to revisit Sony pictures Legeion
07:10:35 <A_Curator> imagine a world without police
07:10:56 <A_Curator> then you see israel it dont looklike no paradise
07:11:13 <A_Curator> still thats where I want it to be
07:11:52 <A_Curator> the right people and in Jerusalem with natural ameneties
07:12:27 <A_Curator> a way to crack the ntfs hive files again and start churning the winepress
07:12:47 <A_Curator> morons believe in compruth screens fingerprints
07:13:01 <A_Curator> the all knowing ntfs db
07:13:17 <A_Curator> I did say again
07:13:40 <A_Curator> likely many getting false reports and crimes in them
07:14:09 <A_Curator> theres movies about it and it is not far fetched
07:15:17 <A_Curator> you are actually statisticly less safe because of not 100 percent computer DB because you willget framed
07:15:31 <A_Curator> so yeah cops are a problem
07:15:36 <A_Curator> a blemish
07:16:40 <A_Curator> like ops
07:17:03 <A_Curator> #mises was about the best channel where ops dont ban
07:17:14 <A_Curator> mimimly
07:17:29 <A_Curator> like screen flooding or something
07:17:45 <A_Curator> epilepsy triggers
07:33:42 <A_Curator> jerusalem
07:33:50 <A_Curator> peradventure this
07:34:15 <A_Curator> I go to jerusalem and build a fusion power plant
07:34:38 <A_Curator> eh
07:34:46 <A_Curator> what do you think?
07:34:53 <A_Curator> magnificent!
07:35:01 <A_Curator> genious
07:36:44 <A_Curator> can you get me into the GPS
07:37:17 <A_Curator> I dont feel safe under it in anybody else hands
07:37:35 <A_Curator> do my CIA website with triangular grid
07:37:51 <A_Curator> like GPS uses
07:38:03 <A_Curator> do you know any web guys
07:38:29 <A_Curator> so its all triangles
08:18:49 <yuripv> oh nice, now we have a chatbot
08:39:41 <meena> we need more ops who are awake, tho
09:33:35 <nimaje> meena: seems like something like "needs explicit support for <arch> in bsd-user/host/<arch>" would be a good ONLY_FOR_ARCHS_REASON for emulators/qemu-user-static and seems like upstream should have aarch64 support now (but maybe not in a release), there is a bsd-user/host/aarch64 in the git repo
09:45:04 <debdrup> Sorry folks, only just woke up right now.
10:48:34 <debdrup> meena: we were talking about build times for the documentation, and a good way to get a feeling for the time is to look at ci.freebsd.org
12:00:33 <meena> nimaje: where even is the host directory?
12:02:42 <nimaje> https://github.com/qemu-bsd-user/qemu-bsd-user/tree/bsd-user-rebase-3.1/bsd-user/host
12:02:44 <VimDiesel> Title: qemu-bsd-user/bsd-user/host at bsd-user-rebase-3.1 · qemu-bsd-user/qemu-bsd-user · GitHub
12:04:07 <meena> it's one file i need to implement?
12:05:35 <meena> no, they are there. so what's missing?
12:08:20 <nimaje> as said, looks like there is upstream support for aarch64 now, no idea if it is in any release, but also no idea if more than that dir is needed
14:45:48 <RoyalYork> Was wondering if there is anything special I need to do to allow my FreeBSD desktop to access a SAMBA share on a separate FreeBSD server within my network. I'm able to connect from Windows to the FreeBSD SAMBA Server sucessfully, however when I attempt to connect from my FreeBSD desktop, O get Unable to Open Connection
14:56:08 <meena> RoyalYork: what are you using to to access it?
14:58:44 <ivaat> i have few questions about man.cgi perl script
14:59:31 <ivaat> RoyalYork, what are logs files writing?
15:01:11 <ivaat> RoyalYork, /var/log/samba/
15:06:10 <RoyalYork> meena, ivaat : Im attempting to connect through the command line - mount_smbfs -N -I 10.10.10.10 //guest@servername/sharefolder /home/royalyork/share
15:07:06 <ivaat> and what is output? you can paste to https://bsd.to
15:07:07 <VimDiesel> Title: dpaste
15:07:19 <RoyalYork> mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = RPC struct is bad
15:07:22 <RoyalYork> is the output
15:07:34 <RoyalYork> i am trying to log in anonymously via guest
15:07:43 <RoyalYork> on windows, I am not required to enter a username or password
15:13:32 <ivaat> RoyalYork,  mount_smbfs offers support for SMB/CIFS/SMB1. https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mount_smbfs&sektion=8&manpath=freebsd-release-ports
15:13:34 <VimDiesel> Title: mount_smbfs(8)
15:13:58 <ivaat> RoyalYork, it does not support version 2 or 3
15:14:03 <ivaat> i think thats the issue
15:20:46 <debdrup> Yeah, SMB2 is turned off in Samba (and Windows SMB implementations) because of a security issue.
15:25:29 <RoyalYork> Yes, I remember seeing something a while ago about SMB2 or 3 support
15:25:43 <RoyalYork> Is there a FreeBSD alternative to access SMB2 or 3?
15:29:44 <ivaat> smbclient?
15:30:06 <ivaat> i don't know if it is available for freebsd
15:35:49 <debdrup> According to sysutils/pkg-provides, it's part of the samba packages.
15:57:11 <RoyalYork> ok thanks, i'll check out smbclient
16:11:13 <Freaky> https://github.com/seanmonstar/num_cpus/pull/133 \o/
16:11:14 <VimDiesel> Title: FreeBSD: Add cpuset and physical core support by Freaky · Pull Request #133 · seanmonstar/num_cpus · GitHub
16:30:17 <meena> Freaky: why do you need `any()` in those cfgs?
16:32:19 <Freaky> I don't, obviously
16:33:09 <meena> I thought it might be future provisions, or code style so i didn't comment on the pr
16:34:50 <Freaky> I just didn't really notice them
16:36:10 <meena> that libc::sysctl call looks horrible enough that somebody should write a wrapper
16:43:15 <Freaky> there is a sysctl crate, but minimising deps for something like this is a fairly high priority, *everything* uses num_cpus
17:24:37 <meena> aye
17:54:05 <paulf> nothing wrong with sysctl
17:54:10 <paulf> in assembler even
18:29:44 <_xor> There's a big case from Getty that will probably establish a test for that, I'd imagine.
18:30:04 <_xor> Oh, oops. I was scrolled up lol. Responded to a much earlier topic.
18:31:06 <_xor> Freaky: I should take another look at those crates, currently I'm using bindgen a fair amount.
18:40:16 <gzar> did someone say "write a program in assembly" couse i'd be down for that
19:23:53 <paulf> no just assembler where needed
20:34:47 <meena> this is wild https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=270709
20:34:48 <VimDiesel> Title: 270709 – audio/oss Kernel panic at every shutdown after installing OSS
20:43:26 <parv> meena, Thanks for another interesting bug (that read like platitudes in some comments on Youtube videos but I do mean it). Also, do you search for those?
20:46:50 <nimaje> probably just idling in #freebsd-bugs
20:48:17 <berte> hello everyone how can I catch system freeze via debugger?
20:52:28 <meena> parv: i just hang out in #freebsd-bugs which has a stream of all newly created (and possibly also closed?) bugs. I mostly ignore the ports bugs, since they usually just, here's an update for port x, and that leaves the interesting ones
20:53:04 <parv> meena, Thank you
20:53:45 <meena> berte: that's tricky, since, well, the system freezes, it means it won't really be responsive to a debugger, local or remote
20:55:17 <berte> meena, maybe last chance before freezing :D
20:57:18 <berte> I asked that, maybe there is a signal that is raised before it freezes
20:57:59 <berte> or there is a mechanism to get an automatic core dump when a freeze occurs
21:00:21 <amigan> berte: if the machine is hard locked, it is likely not in a state with enough sanity to even run ddb or perform a dump. if you don't see a panic on the console, this is probably the case.
21:01:23 <berte> amigan, yes that's exactly what's happening
21:01:46 <berte> do you have any suggestions for this situation?
21:02:13 <amigan> You need to deduce what is causing the freeze, since you cannot use instrumentation
21:02:57 <berte> okay, first winner intel ax210 driver
21:03:06 <amigan> Not a bad first stab
21:03:15 <berte> let me investigate more
21:03:23 <berte> thanks a lot
21:03:25 <amigan> np!
22:37:59 <Zenithium> hi i was wondering if anyone knew why audio sometimes (though quite often) skips during youtube playback in ungoogled-chromium. (i am using a usb dac as the output device)
22:41:31 <souji> Zenithium: Have you tried using an other browser?
22:48:16 <Zenithium> souji: actually, now that ive tested it, it stutters on mpv aswell, not just youtube. (its playing using oss)
22:54:36 <souji> hmm, so it is most likely not the browser.
22:56:18 <souji> What FreeBSD version are you using?
22:56:49 <Zenithium> souji: 13.1-RELEASE
23:00:01 <souji> Is it possible for you to use a different output device, to exclude a problem with the usb dac device?
23:00:49 <Zenithium> sure
23:02:31 <Zenithium> souji: it still stutters
23:03:34 <parv> Zenithium, Do you get any messages related to sound system to indicate possible issues?
23:04:41 <Zenithium> parv: where would i be getting these messages (sorry im new to freebsd). i see nothing of interest in dmesg
23:04:46 <meena> what sound output system do you use?
23:05:08 <souji> Just to be sure, what ever file you are playing is not corrupted, and it plays without issues on an other device or worked before?
23:05:15 <parv> Zenithium, On console, in dmesg, in /var/log/(somewhere)
23:05:26 <rwp> Zenithium, I don't have that problem now but about a year ago on a different network I had it terrible.  I switched how I watch YT.  I almost always use yt-dlp now and then watch the downloaded video, usually with mpv.
23:05:34 <souji> meena: he is using oss I think
23:06:34 <Zenithium> souji: ofc. i wouldnt be blaming freebsd then lol
23:07:21 <Zenithium> parv: nope, i dont see anything
23:08:40 <souji> Zenithium: you never know xD
23:08:48 <Reinhilde> haalp how do i reinstall the bootloader? i seem to have messed up the bootloader and now i can't use boot environments properly
23:09:00 <Reinhilde> ... ignore me for a bit, I'll go looking through docos
23:09:37 <meena> Reinhilde: UEFI?
23:10:00 <Reinhilde> yes, UEFI. But as i said, I'm going googling first
23:10:16 * meena points Zenithium at rtprio(1)
23:10:31 <Zenithium> noted
23:11:41 <meena> https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=virtual_oss&sektion=8&format=html has something, but
23:11:42 <VimDiesel> Title: virtual_oss(8)
23:12:00 <meena> take that with a kilo of salt
23:12:15 <parv> yum
23:12:15 <meena> I'm not allowed to touch real hardware,,
23:12:33 <Zenithium> m
23:12:43 <souji> Zenithium: Maybe there is some stuff in the "sysctl hw.snd" options
23:13:22 <souji> There are some quality options, but I have no idea if this would help
23:14:01 <rwp> Reinhilde, https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.0R/relnotes/ "Boot Loader Changes" says "ESP partitions should be mounted as MS-DOS filesystems as /boot/efi, and /boot/loader.efi should be copied to /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi if the default setup is used."
23:14:02 <VimDiesel> Title: FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE Release Notes | The FreeBSD Project
23:14:58 <rwp> Older systems with Legacy BIOS use the "gpart bootcode" command.
23:19:20 <rwp> Previously an entire imaged ESP would be installed with "gpart bootcode -p /boot/boot1.efifat -i 1 adaX" but of course that blasts out multiple boot.  So things have changed to the new process of just updating single files in the ESP.
23:26:51 <souji> Zenithium: good luck, I am off now
23:34:26 <Zenithium> hm
23:34:41 <Reinhilde> rwp: Right, yes, I've done that. What's wrong is that i can't get it to pick up on multiple boot environments, so it seems to just pick up on my older one.
23:35:29 <Reinhilde> I am upgrading the system from one version to another and the bootloader's confused
23:36:01 <Reinhilde> Gonna go have a sandwich.
23:36:36 <parv> Reinhilde, Check efibootmgr(8)
23:42:24 <Reinhilde> ok, yes, I'd already installed loader as the fallback boot manager (long ago actually, and again before(!) rwp said it), I know how to work efibootmgr, parv
23:42:42 <parv> Ok then