02:30:57 <Macer> anybody know a decent read to get fuse to mount smb in fstab on boot?
02:31:03 <Macer> (or some other method)
02:32:41 <Macer> i'm guessing that by now possibly mount_smbfs has been removed since it only supports ntlm/smb1?
02:35:55 <Macer> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/mounting-exfat-and-ntfs-3-filesystems-with-fstab.69491/
02:35:57 <VimDiesel> Title: Mounting exfat and ntfs-3 filesystems with fstab | The FreeBSD Forums
02:36:00 <Macer> i guess it would be something similar to that?
03:01:24 <dev1ls> /exit/
05:18:48 <angry_vincent> it looks `route` not aware of WITHOUT_INET6 build option? i have system built without ipv6 due to no need, but i seeing this -> route: bad keyword inet6
05:21:48 <rtprio> WITHOUT_INET6 is the kernel option, right?
05:23:51 <rtprio> angry_vincent: did you rebuild the world (including route) to ignore inet6?
05:25:23 <kevans> kernel options are separate from WITH_/WITHOUT_ knobs
05:26:39 <angry_vincent>  rtprio i believ so, yes
05:26:41 <kevans> angry_vincent: that sounds like it's working as intended? route doesn't understand the inet6 keyword because it's compiled out
05:26:53 <angry_vincent> ah, ok, then all fine
05:27:03 <kevans> for lack of better phrasing, I think you're shooting the messenger and it's something trying to invoke route that you need to be questioning
05:27:18 <kevans> but if it's an rc script, it's *probably* expected
05:27:42 <angry_vincent> i was thinking it is yet expecting/probing/doing something for ipv6
05:28:56 <kevans> nah, it's just responding to args
05:29:07 <rtprio> one could argue it's questionable value to rebuild to remove inet6
05:31:23 <angry_vincent> i understand such argument.
05:31:57 <kevans> yeah, i'm also not big on the idea, but i could see why it would be appealing
05:38:41 <rtprio> don't get me wrong, my TINY kernel is 8mb whereas GENERIC 28mb
05:38:54 <rtprio> but there's always a degree of fucking around one needs to do
09:27:11 <angry_vincent> j #nyxt
09:27:14 <angry_vincent> sorry
09:30:32 <meena> i just realised why all the kernel packages are roughly the same size: https://alpha.pkgbase.live/release/13.1/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest/
09:30:34 <VimDiesel> Title: Index of /release/13.1/FreeBSD:13:amd64/latest
09:30:43 <meena> because of all the modules.
12:53:01 <adilix> hi all
12:59:40 <FUZxxl> hi adilix
15:36:32 <ghoti> rtprio: just for closure, the problem I've been having is with my firewall rules. When I set a bypass rule before my divert, problems magically went away. Looks like I need to pay more attention  to how ipfw rules associated with em1 interact with the bridge.
15:36:44 <oo_miguel> Hello, I want to try installing FreeBSD on my 'Raspberry PI 4' and wonder what resources to consult before/during the installation? I found the FreeBST/ARM/RaspberryPi ppage on the wiki so far.
15:37:23 <oo_miguel> My previous BSD experience is very limited, however I have solid linux foudations
15:37:50 <ghoti> oo_miguel: FreeBSD on any platform is "mostly the same". For RPi, you save the image to your media instead of using an installer. That's about it.
15:38:41 <oo_miguel> ghoti: I am sure I can read it up myself - but just curious - is the image you refer to supported by freebsd team? or is this some independetn side-project?
15:41:02 <oo_miguel> Ok, at least I see that they are hosted ad freebsd.org
15:41:35 <oo_miguel> Thanks
15:42:59 <debdrup> FreeBSD is a registered trademark that can only be used by the FreeBSD project, so almost by definition it can't be independent.
16:39:29 <oo_miguel> debdrup: good point, thanks
17:16:27 <rtprio> ghoti: ah, doh.
17:30:36 <rwp> ghoti, Thanks for the closure! I was wondering myself what the detail was that caused the problem. :-)
17:52:30 <futunebot> /usr/bin/openssl version is showing OpenSSL 1.1.1o-freebsd  3 May 2022, shouldn't it be more recent after patching the cve which was fixed in 13.1-p7?
17:52:57 <futunebot> freebsd-version outputs 13.1-RELEASE-p7, to be clear
18:22:38 <mmance> I am learning ACLs, but I can't tell what (r): and (rw): mean before the bits. https://bsd.to/gAeg
18:22:39 <VimDiesel> Title: dpaste/gAeg (Plain Text)
18:43:22 <mmance> nevermind, that was in the group name
20:24:49 <AReal486> So, just out of curosity, how would one setup dialup on FreeBSD 13.1-RELEASE?
20:25:08 <mason> AReal486: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/ppp-and-slip/
20:25:10 <VimDiesel> Title: Chapter 29. PPP | FreeBSD Documentation Portal
20:25:54 <AReal486> Thanks!
20:26:25 <mason> AReal486: The PPP stuff has a nice knowledge transfer if you find yourself needing PPPoE as well, which is common enough nowadays.
20:28:38 <AReal486> Well, I have a US Robotics Courier 3453C which I want to play around it. I have it working with BBSes and dialup (using Arachne) on FreeDOS and wanted to see if I could do something similar on my FreeBSD machine.
20:39:57 <Demosthenex> llua: in your salt config, why do you use sysrc wrapped in a command in your stop_sendmail, and sysctl in yaml in other places. doesn't sysrc have a salt function?
21:25:42 <llua> i was unaware of the sysrc.managed state module, i used cmd.run since service.disable(?) wasn't going to work with those names
21:25:50 <llua> Demosthenex: ^
21:34:46 <llua> Demosthenex: thanks for the heads up tho, it uses it now
21:38:27 <Demosthenex> llua: i'm just reading :P i was curious
21:39:14 <llua> yeah, disabling sendmail is a bit awkward
22:39:43 <LucMove> Howdy. When I install packages, they usually print out a message. I suppose those messages are recorded somewhere, right?
22:43:39 <mason> LucMove: Pull it out with, for example: pkg info -D devcpu-data
22:45:29 <LucMove> Yes. Thanks.
22:47:03 <Demosthenex> llua: i was thrilled when i found sysrc
22:47:22 <Demosthenex> i've been disappointed that the bootloader.conf and sysctl don't have similar tools, and sysrc breaks on them
22:47:47 <Demosthenex> in aix i can have a "first boot script" where i use shell commands to configure just about everything without gold files or text editing, i was hoping to do more of that with the base freebsd OS
22:47:51 <Demosthenex> without salt
22:48:06 <Demosthenex> linux is just so braindead with text files that can't be validated. love sysrc.
22:48:19 <Demosthenex> so having salt let me make a file with a list of settings is very appealing
22:48:27 <Demosthenex> because those files i shouldn't distribute as gold files
22:55:16 <xtile> what is a gold file?
22:57:35 <Demosthenex> xtile: in config management terms, it's a file that's the same on many hosts, so you distribute a golden file
22:57:51 <mason> xtile: Some related reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promise_theory
22:57:52 <VimDiesel> Title: Promise theory - Wikipedia
23:00:47 * xtile looks!
23:02:00 <llua> oh, i helped you the other day, i was wondering how you knew about my setup
23:10:32 <rwp> xtile, Also http://www.infrastructures.org/bootstrap/gold.shtml which is historical context for the IT use of the term.
23:10:33 <VimDiesel> Title: Infrastructures.Org: Best Practices in Automated Systems Administration and Infrastructure Architecture: Gold Server
23:10:48 <rwp> Based upon http://www.infrastructures.org/papers/bootstrap/bootstrap.html from 25 years ago now!
23:10:49 <VimDiesel> Title: Bootstrapping an Infrastructure
23:15:12 <xtile> thank you
23:23:52 <xtile> Gold server is a neat idea.