02:51:45 Hello; I'm trying to add open (public) Wi-Fi networks to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf alongside my WPA-enabled networks. I've read that this should work as long as I make sure key_mgmt=NONE in that network= block. But I've tried on three different public networks and not been able to get an IP address from DHCP. My configuration: https://bsd.to/wGZK/raw 02:51:46 Title: wGZK 02:53:41 The "authmode WPA privacy MIXED" seems like it might be relevant? I should add that the WPA-enabled networks in my wpa_supplicant.conf work seamlessly. 03:33:20 i would set ifconfig_wlan0="dhcp", i don't think wpa belongs there unless you have a citation on that 03:38:27 rtprio, but then I'd need to edit rc.conf to add and remove it every time I switch between secure and insecure networks, right? 03:39:30 This is a laptop, so I'm trying to make switching between networks I've set up (at coffee shops and the like) fairly seamless. 03:40:54 s/set up/specified the configuration for/ 03:41:23 fran: no 03:42:05 key_mgmt=NONE in the wpa_supplicant section 03:42:21 for that AP 03:43:19 I have that, yes. 03:43:29 it should work 03:47:23 With "WPA" removed from my ifconfig_wlan0 line in /etc/rc.conf, I can connect to that non-secure network. But now when I uncomment my WPA-enabled network in wpa_supplicant.conf, the system doesn't even try to connect to that SSID. 03:47:24 there's wpa_cli to interact with wpa once it's running; if you need to change a non-trivial times, i'd suggest figuring out some of its basic usage 03:48:08 you should be able to leave all network uncommented in your wpa_supplicant.conf 03:48:11 I was under the impression that "WPA" had to be in that line for wpa_supplicant and its automation to get involved at all. Without it, I think it's just defaulting to the last SSID I specified. 03:48:35 I had my secure network commented out while I was trying to get the nonsecure network working. 03:52:15 ther's no point in doing that 03:53:55 what's the open wifi section in wpa_supplicant.conf ? 03:54:14 I included it in the paste above. 04:06:20 It looks like I'm able to get the nonsecure network working with wpa_supplicant *if* I manually run `ifconfig wlan0 authmode open`. 04:07:12 So it appears that the problem is that wpa_supplicant isn't changing the authmode to open when it connects to a nonsecure network. 04:10:36 https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/wifi-wlan0-will-not-connect-to-open-network.86247/post-581900 04:10:38 Title: Solved - wifi/wlan0 will not connect to open network | The FreeBSD Forums 04:10:39 huh 04:10:52 i swear i had this working before 04:19:07 It looks like wpa_supplicant *should* be setting the authmode: https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/blob/releng/13.1/contrib/wpa/src/drivers/driver_bsd.c#L1180 04:19:08 Title: freebsd-src/driver_bsd.c at releng/13.1 · freebsd/freebsd-src · GitHub 04:21:59 I'm guessing maybe this is a bug? 04:25:34 maybe; see if it's in bugzilla 04:28:11 Nothing that I can see. 05:03:22 Is there a temporary holding place of links here? Mark M noted the issue for "FYI: upcoming 13.2-RELEASE vs. 8 GiByte RPi4B's based on U-Boot 2023.01 recently in use, given UEFI style booting", https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable/2023-February/001129.html 05:03:24 Title: FYI: upcoming 13.2-RELEASE vs. 8 GiByte RPi4B's based on U-Boot 2023.01 recently in use, given UEFI style booting 05:03:42 ... in case people would ask about it 08:38:45 Hey 09:03:25 I have a ROCKPi SE single board computer, trying to get ethernet to connect. I can see in ifconfig dwc0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500, but no IP address. Have ifconfig_dwc0="DHCP" in rc.conf. Any suggestions? 09:06:46 Have you set "defaultrouter" in "/etc/rc.conf" or added "default" route otherwise? 09:11:27 I haven't, and I can only see `defaultroute_delay="5"` in /etc/rc.conf. It's a somewhat prebuilt custom image for the platform from personalbsd.org, so not sure if it could be set elsewhere 09:12:15 Either you would need to add "default" route or have DHCP server send one to you 09:13:00 or have SLAAC do it for you for ipv6 09:13:37 if you do have dhcp 09:13:48 try 'dhclient dwc0' from console 09:13:49 or 09:14:07 ifconfig dwc0 inet LAN_IP/24 && route add default GATEWAY 09:14:13 to check its talking to the network properly 09:14:27 then add what you found in rc.conf as parv suggests 09:14:33 See the "dhclient.conf(5)" manual page 09:18:32 you mean if my router has DHCP? Would GATEWAY be something like 192.168.1.1? 09:18:48 Perhaps 09:20:38 Do you have any other computer connected via DHCP where you could check various configuration? 09:21:10 No DHCPOFFERS received from dhclient 09:21:37 Yes indeed 09:21:51 as a long shot try marking the interface up explicitly 09:21:56 ifconfig dwc0 up 09:22:41 also check if there are lights on the rj45 port 09:22:55 just to prove the cable its self is fine and in a working port on the switch 09:23:31 I tried a debian image before and it connected automatically. I didn't check if it was DHCP unfortunately, but I would assume 09:23:52 It's up 09:24:13 Check the values for "default" or "gateway" (along with DNS servers) on the other computer. What is OS on the other 'puter? 09:25:47 netstat -rn on most computers will show the rotuing table 09:25:50 including the default 09:26:34 ifconfig itself should tell you if the link is up 09:26:44 daemon, Hey that works on Windows 10! 09:26:51 yup :) 09:26:55 ipconfig /all 09:27:01 would as well though 09:27:01 simernes: what does ifconfig say about link speed? 09:27:14 I have one Void Linux and one Ubunutu machine. It looks like the default gateway is 192.168.1.1 09:27:26 there should be a line like "media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT )" 09:27:36 so your lan is likely to be 192.168.1.0/24 09:27:45 daemon, I know about "ipconfig"; just never had tried "netstat" before 09:27:53 Remilia: `media: Ethernet autoselect (none)` 09:28:00 simernes: you do not have a link up 09:28:09 check cable 09:28:35 parv, wonder if -rn4 would work too 09:28:38 just to limit the returns 09:29:04 The cable is blinking and as I said it was working when I booted a more preconfigured debian image. Could it still be faulty? 09:29:09 simernes: your dmesg probably has no 'dwc0: link state changed to UP' messages either 09:29:40 it might also be a problem with the interface driver in the kernel, of course 09:30:21 you could try manually specifying link speed 09:31:22 you're right, there's only "lo0: link state changed to UP". But I ran `ifconfig dwc0 up`, I thought that would up it 09:31:54 see dwc(4) for possible 'media' options 09:32:10 daemon, "-4" did not work 09:32:18 simernes: ifconfig iface up means the interface goes up in the OS 09:32:24 media is *physical* link 09:32:44 when it says (none) it means no link was negotiated 09:33:13 netstat -rn shows "0.0.0.0/8 link#1 U dwc0" 09:33:16 try unplugging the Ethernet cable and plugging it back in 09:33:36 netstat will do nothing, you do not have any physical link 09:34:31 'media: Ethernet autoselect (none)' means 'cable is not connected or faulty' or 'the NIC driver does not work correctly' 09:35:10 well, I mean, it also can mean 'remote side has the port disabled or is just turned off', of course 09:35:58 Hunh. The online manual page accessor, https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=dwc&apropos=1&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+13.1-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html, does not know about "dwc" nor did for 12.0-release 09:35:59 Title: Apropos dwc 09:36:11 check `man 4 dwc` for possible options for media and try something like `ifconfig dwc0 media 100baseTX` 09:36:57 simernes: check `grep dwc0 /var/run/dmesg.boot` for any error messages 09:37:51 FWIW https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/rockpro64-network-adapter.83789/ 09:37:53 Title: Solved - RockPro64 network adapter... | The FreeBSD Forums 09:39:03 thanks parv, I tried the `ifconfig dw0 media 1000baseTX mediaopt full-duplex` before but also didn't work. Maybe I should boot into the debian image and see what's configured 09:39:35 I am inclined to say problem could be with the driver 09:40:22 If my router has gigabit I should set 1000baseTX, right? 09:43:05 "ifconfig -m" would also show the supported media options 09:44:31 Yes, re 1000baseTX if that would work; else may need to try 100baseTX or whatever else is supported 09:48:20 omg it's working 09:48:45 What did you do, simernes? 09:49:56 as per your suggestion `ifconfig -m` the top entry was `media autoselect instance 1`. The second being `media 1000baseT mediaopt full-duplex,master instance 1` 09:51:00 I tried with "autoselect instance 1" and it has selected "... 1000baseT full-duplex,master" 09:51:13 Sweet 09:52:06 Did you need to add "default" route or did that work out via DHCP? 09:52:40 Thanks so much. No I didn't add any default route 09:52:47 Ok 09:53:09 * meena only learned about ifconfig -m a week ago 09:53:24 what does that do? 09:53:41 p4x639: query or set the media type 09:53:43 simernes, What does "route show default" list for "gateway"? 09:54:01 meena: media type? 09:56:23 * parv learned, likely again, about "-m" option during the exchange with simernes 09:56:48 p4x639: such as 10G full-duplex, 100G autoselect. just try the query on a bunch of interfaces to see 09:58:40 meena: arch user here :( 09:58:51 * p4x639 needs to switch 09:59:40 how is performance of archlinux in bhyve? 09:59:45 any loss? 09:59:52 also win11 10:00:24 parv: Gateway just shows the name of my 2.4GHz wifi network for some reason 10:00:58 simernes, Alright 10:02:28 Do not know why/how that would be the case, but ok 10:02:48 p4x639: ip should have an equivalent, or else, it's in /sys/class/net//some-file 10:03:19 Can I put this ifconfig in rc.conf or something somehow so it's enabled by default? 10:04:02 simernes: ifconfig_foo0= can take pretty much any option you can give to ifconfig 10:04:55 (in addition to DHCP, which is not an ifconfig option ;) 10:16:07 meena: ty 13:05:17 meena: and WPA, if we're going by things not strictly part of ifconfig 14:07:35 ah, i forgot about WPA 14:07:41 I need to revive my laptop 14:21:51 but, since yesterday, I'm thinking of putting haiku on the thinkpad, and see if I can get FreeBSD running on the system76 laptop 15:12:59 my main machie is an x230 with freebsd ;] 15:20:50 @Demosthenex how's that run, any drivers missing? Battery life? 15:23:05 Demosthenex how's that run, any drivers missing? Battery life? 15:25:32 nice size screen, 12.5" but I'm seeing it is old, pre-installed with Windows 7 😬️ 15:26:07 is wifi modules white listed, can you upgrade this? 15:33:38 i slapped on a x220 keyboard ;] 15:33:40 runs fine 15:33:47 low temperature 15:33:53 haven't tested the batt 15:34:07 nice, what window manager/desktop environment? 16:24:59 stumpwm. no icons, no desktop. 16:25:04 just tiling 16:26:02 pmb: may I recommend https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops ? 16:26:04 Title: Laptops - FreeBSD Wiki 17:03:23 anyone knows which linux version is tracked in drm-kmod's master? 17:08:05 yuripv: I think it's "stable" whatever that is or means 17:20:46 yuripv: i think it is 5.15 now 17:21:34 with, maybe, some addition from 5.16 ( git log is unclear, only reduce with 5.16 ) 17:22:19 i till getting artifacts, rectangular shapes, anf gpu hang, but less frequent and no kernel panics 17:22:30 i still much disappointed 17:23:28 hey all. possibly an obvious answer, but question regarding upgrading jails with freebsd-update. host is running 17:24:33 13.1-RELEASE-p6. installed a new jail with bsdinstall which installed 13.0-RELEASE for some reason. went to upgrade to 13.1 with freebsd-update but it says one of the installed components is kernel/generic which seems odd for a jail? 17:35:30 yuripv: ( aacd0e4bee Reduce diff with Linux 5.16 ) is what i meant, that's in master 17:38:09 angry_vincent: makes sense, thanks 17:43:57 Can anyone help me on this topic? Or is it out of scope? 17:43:59 https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/is-there-is-any-chance-for-me-to-read-a-dvd-disk-on-this-device.88104/ 17:44:00 Title: Is there any chance for me to read a DVD disc on this device? | The FreeBSD Forums 17:53:32 what happens to resource limits set by rctl on a process when process forks? (i have my guess, but I want to confirm it) 17:54:50 ngortheone: I didn't understand the question. 17:55:18 with rctl you can set limits on a process, using process ID (PID) 17:55:30 when process forks, the forked child has new PID 17:55:37 are resource limits inherited? 17:55:53 or is it a legit way of breaking free from limits? 18:04:55 I have rctl disabled 18:12:49 Clockwork: he's not talking to you 18:12:55 greetings 18:13:15 I have been asked by a user if there is a way on FreeBSD to manipulate the “embedded controller” of some laptops. 18:13:18 https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/115ujmb/which_library_will_let_me_write_andor_operations/ 18:13:19 Title: Which library will let me write (AND/OR Operations) EC register on BSD (FreeBSD/ GhostBSD)? : BSD 18:13:21 Do we have anything like that? 18:13:22 rtprio: I understand 18:13:40 Clockwork: are there any other slices? /dev/cd0a etc? 18:16:43 rtprio: No. cd0 only 18:19:29 rtprio: > he's not talking to you 18:19:38 what makes you say this? 18:20:33 in that instance I was in fact clarifying the question for Clockwork 18:22:27 perhaps i didn't scroll back far enough; i apologize 18:23:23 no worries, I was thought maybe I said something incorrect (english is not my native) 18:23:34 Hello, I try to find a mean to roll back a newly built kernel after a "make installkernel" as thi new kernel panic on my setup. Is there a clean mean to do that ? 18:24:06 a way* 18:24:09 I mean 18:24:32 Midjak: after you do "installkernel" the old kernel is copied to kernel.old and is available for selection in the bootloader menu, when you see the bestie 18:24:58 read the menu options, if I remember correctly you need to press 2 to switch to old kernel 18:25:17 yes, I am hesitating about just rename old kernal and drop the new one 18:25:18 book kernel.old from loader menu https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/boot/ 18:25:20 Title: Chapter 14. The FreeBSD Booting Process | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 18:25:33 I succed to boot on the old kernel 18:25:43 Midjak: mv /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.yikes; mv /boot/kernel.old /boot/kernel ; 18:25:47 I just want to roll back to the previous one now 18:25:50 it works fine, i've done it many times 18:25:53 just rename the old kernel back to :) 18:26:01 ok cool 18:26:09 thanks! 18:26:11 loader will boot once, but then you risk a 2nd bad kernel and no good kernel 18:26:18 if that makes sense 18:27:25 and you can always copy the /boot/kernel.old /boot/kernel.keeping (or something) so you don't overwrite it 18:28:22 otherwise what should I do to understand what is going on with the new one? 18:28:42 I've got kernel.13 kernel.13.1.orig kernel and kernel.old sitting here. 18:29:21 I am thinking about a bug report but I am not sure what I should give as information. 18:30:13 what panic do you see? 18:30:55 You'll need to rebuild the kernel with debugging symbols, then use devel/kgdb to examine the data. 18:30:58 chances are, a config option has changed and you missed something, I'd go through both configs line by line and compare them both with the defaults. I'd also boot with the new kernel with the verbose option to get a much better look at what/where it's failing 18:31:06 at boot up on the kernel.new I have built from the last checkout 18:31:51 A kernel without debugging symbols won't give kgdb information to be able to see what's wrong. 18:32:05 ok 18:32:32 thank you both I going to look that 18:32:48 https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/problem-reports/ this describes when and how to submit a good bug report 18:32:50 Title: Writing FreeBSD Problem Reports | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 18:35:57 what subsystem paniced, Midjak ? 18:36:21 My native language is also not English. 18:36:56 jimmiejaz, I am not on a specific configuration . Is it possible something is changed with GENERIC config which could be the cause of the panic ? 18:37:29 rtprio how can I check that rtprio ? 18:38:15 Midjak: the functions in the panic message 18:39:23 Yes where I can find the logs of the previous boot ? not the last boot because I have reboot on the old kernel but the previous one 18:40:17 Are the logs kept from one boot to the next ? 18:40:31 the panic is generally not saved, iirc 18:40:56 so I should reboot and look the message ok 18:41:23 thanks for the link, but it's been a while since I ran freebsd on a laptop, nowadays I go the lazy linux way... freebsd on servers ftw! 18:41:53 it could be as simple as "you included one kernel config item without the required other one" 18:45:12 the kernel panic after amdgpu kernel modsetting enabled 18:45:32 Fatal trap 12 page fault while in kernel mode 18:46:00 did you rebuild the drm-kmod after updating the kernel? 18:46:05 yuripv: ++ 18:46:18 nope 18:46:56 please try that before submitting a bug report 18:47:11 I would to switch on the new kernel for that by the way. I have just follow the user guide 18:48:21 So when I rebuid a kernel I must rebuid drm-kmod, ok. What are the package I should rebuild ? 18:48:39 you don't need to be running the new kernel when rebuilding the drm modules, you just need to have /usr/src corresponding to the new kernel 18:48:59 Midjak: whatever port you installed that provides amdgpu 18:50:04 I dont want specially open bugs yuripv 18:50:24 I have just follow the user guide... 18:50:46 anyway thank you 18:52:32 disable the amdgpu module and see if the new kernel boots 18:52:46 then rebuild amdgpu and reboot again 18:52:49 you should be good to go 18:54:14 rtprio, these are drivers right ? 18:56:15 ah ok. they are drivers from linux. 19:00:03 yeah, the video driver 19:07:30 yuripv, I have rebuilt graphics/krm-mod and reboot same problem. Is graphics/krm-mod I should rebuild ? 19:10:59 graphics/drm-kmod is a meta-port, rebuilding it won't do you any good 19:11:15 you need to see which -kmod it depends on and rebuild that 19:12:57 man, i remember in the old days rebuilding a kernel for specific cpu optimization 19:13:36 and then came time to change the system, and you could no longer swap the disk becaus the new system was amd and the old one was intel or a different generation of processor 19:14:04 so you'd spend another two hours rebuilding the kernel 19:14:07 good times 19:17:42 How canI know what is my -kmod vishwin? 19:18:22 use pkg to get the info of drm-kmod 19:18:30 there is a flag to print dependencies 19:18:35 pkg info -a -o |grep kmod 19:23:06 ok I have rebuilt the package I didn't mange to build on the previous kernel (it was graphics/drm-510-kmod) and now I can boot on the new kernel. 19:24:06 Where drm-kmod is documented ? I have tried man drm-kmod without success 19:28:13 "pkg info drm-kmod" 19:28:36 man -k drm? 19:29:51 To search for installed packages, sans "grep": pkg info -x -o kmod 19:32:44 meena, Thanks. Just learned "kms", in "i915km" for example, stands for "kernel mode-setting" 19:32:56 s/i915km/&s/ 19:37:09 parv: i relearn this every time. I cannot seem to remember 19:39:01 meena, Eh, there is no point in remembering everything that one comes across for all times 19:45:45 parv: especially stuff i have no interest in… 19:46:10 Indeed 19:46:11 I do not, even almost, care about the interna of graphics stacks 19:47:49 Thank you meena parv . I think I will have to build the drm-510-kmod. I am not sure to understand evenrything, but it's better now 19:47:56 but the things i know about virtualization, containers, bootstrapping OSes, and ELF could probably fill many, many books 19:49:15 (books you could use to stop doors from moving, or make a balance a shaky shelf, or do any number of other useful things you can do with useless books) 19:49:40 🤣 19:52:52 and it's still so broadly spread that it's still not useful enough. as you can see in #freebsd-dev with how much ngortheone and i are struggling lol 19:53:55 rtprio: `pkg -xo kmod` will do the same 19:55:56 i want to use lldb inside a jail; is it possible to set security.bsd.unprivileged_proc_debug=1 inside that jail specifically? i have Operation not permitted when i try 19:55:57 * parv hands debdrup a "info" 19:57:07 * debdrup takes the info and indiscriminately shoves it somewhere into the last sentence typed 19:57:12 That'll do. 19:57:50 jmnbtsls1E: sysctl, as the name kind of implies, is unfortunately "system", and can't be broken down to jails or processes 19:59:04 debdrup: old habits die hard 19:59:32 there's some talk of this per jail here https://reviews.freebsd.org/D18319 , but the relevant jail attribute allow.unprivileged_proc_debug doesn't seem to be present on my system 19:59:33 Title: ⚙ D18319 Make security.bsd.unprivileged_proc_debug per-jail 19:59:35 ngortheone: I wonder if (fixing) this ⬆️ could / should be a goal 19:59:49 meena: well no, sysctls can be per-jail 20:00:14 for example net.inet.ip.forwarding, net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass 20:00:27 have not done much other than that in a jail 20:01:22 It's not a jail property, though - it's a sysctl(8) OID. 20:02:30 It even uses the SYSCTL_JAIL_PARAM() macro. 20:02:46 from reading that page so far, the jail property is allow.unprivileged_proc_debug , to allow the jail to change the sysctl 20:05:29 jmnbtsls1E: allow.unprivileged_proc_debug is a jail(8) param, and then inside the jail you should be able to set security.bsd.unprivileged_proc_debug=1 20:05:54 lol, took me 3 minutes longer than you 20:07:37 yeh, the problem is it's not a jail param though, i guess that code never made it , at least on 12.3 20:08:07 hmm, i thought i checked 13 but i have not checked it yet. maybe it's on 13 20:08:10 It might not be in 12.3, no. 20:08:51 It's in 13.0 according to https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=releng/13.0&id=b307954481a13a501bf9f315d160ff768174feff 20:08:52 Title: src - FreeBSD source tree 20:08:54 yeah, i didn't see an MFC 20:09:49 OK, it's in the most recent man page also, understood. thanks 20:10:06 You didn't check the manual pages for your system version? 20:10:29 i did, but did not check the ones for more recent version such as 13 20:27:09 can bhyve attache host filesystems to the guest? 20:36:16 crb: virtio-p9 20:36:56 meena, is that the only option? 20:38:18 nfs… cifs… sshfs… 20:38:35 Oh, yeah I suppose I could nfs mount 20:38:59 do you have any idea performance wise which option is best? 20:46:42 If you're doing performance-sensitive work, you probably shouldn't be using a hypervisor. 20:47:50 Ever since John-Mark G introduced me to sshfs (on Twitter or Mastodon), I prefer to use it over setting up a NFS mount. 20:49:44 parv: why? 20:50:46 crb, I can mount exactly the directory I need; also the "ssh" part of "sshfs" 20:52:05 parv: that's true I suppose but my network is fairly closed and it occurs to me that the two directories that I care about are already nfs exported across my network, that may make nfs the best option 21:56:14 parv: I'd argue that's one of those things that's more context-sentitive; for example, there's a good argument to be made that if both client and server are FreeBSD, you can do NFS over TLS - because that uses just one TCP port over which both the NFS traffic, authentication, locking, and everything else is sent. All of that, in turn, using AES-GCM, will be both encrypted and integrity checked (because 21:56:20 the cipher integrates both, and is optimized for a packet-sized chunks). 21:59:16 sshfs has a few issues that'll also affect performance; for one thing it's incurring an involuntary context switch every time you're doing an action because it's relying on fusefs, but in the event that you're on a network you trust (ie. one you setup and maintain), there not much gained from the actual security promises of using ssh. 22:00:00 Except it's not just one context switch, if memory serves - I think each action in fusefs is at least 3 because of the boundary crossings? 22:00:26 sshfs, like many other things, isn't a one-size-fits-all. 22:00:28 debdrup, Sure, re: context. Work mounts NFS without TLS & NFS v4 server on Rocky Linux; got no time to set up "idmap" 22:00:46 parv: so no NFSv4 ACLs then? :P 22:02:46 To be clear I do not care to set up "idmap" on my FreeBSD machine. That is set up on other CentOS & Rocky Linux machines 22:03:28 holy shit, installing/running a linux client under bhyve seems pretty easy and fucking cool! 22:18:25 ok so one more question, do bhyves have to be started by root or can an ordinary user start a guest OS? 22:23:28 The answer is that it depends. 22:24:24 There's a patch floating around somewhere on https://bugs.freebsd.org that lets you create unprivileged guests, but it means that it won't have PCI passthrough and there's a bunch of other things that won't work. 22:24:26 Title: FreeBSD Bugzilla Main Page 22:24:50 What you can instead do, though, is run bhyve inside a jail. That gets it a much stronger isolation from the host than simply running it unprivileged. 22:25:39 debdrup: thanks 22:26:32 I finished maintaining the laptop: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Laptops/HP_Compaq_nx6320 22:26:33 Title: Laptops/HP_Compaq_nx6320 - FreeBSD Wiki 22:27:00 There's also some issues with guest memory accounting, although the extend to which this is a problem outside of reclaiming the resources if the guest is shut down and/or using rctl(8) isn't clear to me. 22:28:07 But since it isn't properly freed, that could in theory lead to security issues. 22:28:45 Though whether this extends beyond an information leak isn't something I can speculate about after 2300 hours on a sunday ;) 22:29:01 Clockwork, Havd not seen "Compaq" for a long time until now 22:29:17 Isn't it just HP? 22:29:38 s/Hav/Ha/ # Ha! 22:30:18 I also wrote about /HP_Compaq_6715b 22:31:08 This name is written on the cover of the laptop.