00:06:44 <rtprio> lockna: what are you trying to do?
01:54:15 <cracauer> My ldconfig path on 14-current is missing /usr/local/lib/gcc12/. My stable machines have it. I don't understand how that is supposed to end up there. Any ideas?
01:55:28 <cracauer> /etc/rc.d/ldconfig seems to recurse into directories via find.
01:58:07 <cracauer> Ah. I'm overriding that in /etc/rc.local. Classic pilot error.
02:39:58 <rtprio> 👍
11:42:22 <dadv> Hi! I have a variant of old ProLiant DL180 G6 server that has IPMI and iLO but no dedicated ethernet management port for iLO, so it must use one of onboard Intel Gigabit 82576 NICs driven by igb(4) with 12.4-RELEASE. Does this driver support co-operation with BMC? I use ipmitool to talk with BMC and setup its LAN with static IP successfully. Also enabled ARP and GARP every 10 seconds. Connected both NICs to same Cisco Catalyst switch but it does not show BMC'
11:42:22 <dadv> s MAC at all. And no replies to ARP requests for BMC IP.
11:43:21 <dadv> FreeBSD itself successfully uses either port, if configured so.
11:43:42 <dadv> No vlan tags in a picture intentionally.
13:05:36 <Gud> Hello
13:05:41 <Gud> I have a peculiar problem with jails
13:06:05 <Gud> I can connect to services running on it, but I am unable to connect to anything from it(e. g pkg upgrade doesn't work)
13:11:46 <Gud> ok got it working
13:12:09 <souji> ok :D
13:13:38 <V_PauAmma_V> For that specific example (pkg), you can use pkg -j jailname. In general, do you need jailed processes to open outside connections?
16:03:15 <shiroyasha> Ah yes it seems today is Jails Problems Day. Just a momento ago I also fixed a connectivity problem.
16:04:16 <shiroyasha> I have a jail that I only want to give an IPv6 address from WireGuard, and was having problems with NAT.
16:06:10 <shiroyasha> One as because I needed `gateway_enable="YES"`, and the other that took me longer is that I forgot to configure IPv6 NAT in the (remote) host that I was using for forwarding.
16:06:15 <shiroyasha> s/as/was/
16:07:08 <shiroyasha> All fixed and working nicely now, I just wanted to share my hardships and dumb mistakes.
16:39:27 <CrtxReavr> WTF would you use IPv6 NAT?
16:39:48 <CrtxReavr> The entire point of moving to v6 is to be rid of NAT and other stupidity.
16:44:02 <shiroyasha> One to connect to internet from inside the jail that only has an IPv6 address in the fc00::/7 range (Unique Local Address), from the WireGuard network interface.
16:44:45 <shiroyasha> And the other to be able to communicate with a few other WireGuard addresses without having to configure all of them individually.
16:44:49 <CrtxReavr> You should only use ULA for things you don't want to talk on the internet.
16:45:20 <CrtxReavr> NAT gives people a very false sense of security.
16:45:26 <CrtxReavr> NAT is not a firewall.
16:47:04 <shiroyasha> I'd rather temporarily uncomment a `nat` line in `pf` to run `pkg` inside the jail, than give the jail a public IPv6 address and then take it away.
16:59:21 <shiroyasha> Maybe I should hide the fact that I also use an IPv6 NAT to connect to internet (Mullvad).
17:00:51 * shiroyasha hides.
17:00:54 <PredatorONormies> imagine using a VPN for privacy lol
17:01:59 <shiroyasha> Yea I'm not gonna seed torrents with my IP.
17:02:31 <shiroyasha> If the Spanish Inquisition comes for me, I want them to put at least 1 minute of work.
17:02:56 <PredatorONormies> if you're afraid of that - use I2P(i2pd is written in C++, thus better than the one written in Java)  lol
17:03:05 <PredatorONormies> shiroyasha,  lol
17:22:04 <pmnw> Q: is the lpd service capable of printing to file if I don't have a printer connected?
17:28:19 <yo9fah> Regardless of what some say, FreeBSD remains the most stable OS!!!
17:34:39 <V_PauAmma_V> pmnw, not sure, but you can try configuring a print-to-file printer in /etc/printcap. That filename would be static, though, so maybe not suited to your purpose. More in printcap(5), specifically the lp field for that printer.
17:53:10 <CrtxReavr> pmnw, if you look at the comments in /etc/printcap at the "lp" example, I'm pretty sure you could just subsitute a file in place of /ldev/lpt0 to write to a file.
17:53:28 <CrtxReavr>  /\dev/lpt0
17:53:31 <CrtxReavr> fuck
17:53:34 <CrtxReavr>  /dev/lpt0
17:54:22 <CrtxReavr> hehe
17:54:36 <CrtxReavr> I remember I took a Solaris Admin class once. . .
17:54:56 <pmnw> V_PauAmma_V: CrtxReavr: I'll tinker with it to see if it can be done, so thanks.
17:55:56 <CrtxReavr> The instructor setup  network printer on his machine, 'course it wasn't real - was just writing to a file. ..and he had 'tail -f' of that file running on the projector, and our exercise was to configure a local queue that pointed to it.
17:56:22 <CrtxReavr> 'Course. .. we all went crazy shit to it, to appear on the big screen behind him.
18:16:31 <cracauer> Solaris 2 training or Solaris 1 (aka SunOS 4)? The latter was pretty cool except for the libc.
18:16:55 <CrtxReavr> This was in the Solaris 9 days.
18:17:13 <cracauer> Condolences.
18:17:30 <cracauer> Solaris RIP.
18:20:44 <dkeav> i miss Solaris
18:20:47 <dkeav> :/
18:21:35 <CrtxReavr> I worked on it a lot. . . starting with 2.6 and up through 10. . . only touched 11 a little bit.
18:21:45 <CrtxReavr> I was never a fan.
18:21:56 <CrtxReavr> But still had to do it.
18:22:47 <CrtxReavr> Amusingly, every couple of months, some recruiter reaches out to me because their client is "desperate" for a Solaris admin.
18:23:29 <CrtxReavr> Then the conversation comes to the topic of money and they're always like "Oh, no. . . the consider this to be a legacy platform. . . they would never pay anything close to that!"
18:24:02 <CrtxReavr> So I say, "Well, then they clearly don't understand the economics of this situation, do they?"
18:24:13 <cracauer> Hah.  It should pay *more*.  Because you don't gain marketable skills.
18:24:36 <CrtxReavr> I shudder to think of all the un-patched Solaris sitting out there.
18:24:54 <dkeav> not as much in recent years i'd imagine, but still quite a few
18:25:11 <CrtxReavr> Oh, there's a lot. . .
18:25:27 <dkeav> good
18:25:34 <CrtxReavr> 'Specially in banking, gov't, military.
18:25:35 <dkeav> hope it turns into a Cobol situation
18:25:44 <dkeav> where it becomes lucrative for the skillset
18:25:51 <cracauer> What is the market for SPARC with Solaris these days?
18:26:12 <CrtxReavr> Check eBay.
18:26:18 <CrtxReavr> No one makes that shit anymore.
18:26:49 <CrtxReavr> Plus, the power efficiency of that old UltraSparc shit was DREADFUL.
18:27:29 <dkeav> the Ultrasparc T era wasn't quite as bad
18:27:32 <cracauer> I remember high idle power.
18:27:36 <dkeav> you at least had a ton of cores
18:27:50 <dkeav> the ultra 3/4 era was pretty bad though
18:28:06 <dkeav> easily heat your rooms in the winter!
18:28:38 <cracauer> Kind of like my dual Xeon right now...
18:28:58 <CrtxReavr> in the .bomb era, I did some DNS migration work for a dying dot-com.
18:29:10 <CrtxReavr> They "paid" in a loaded E450.
18:29:49 <CrtxReavr> 'Course. . . that damned thing was so loud, gave off so much heat, and sucked down so much power, there was no way I could run that thing in my house.
18:31:24 <cracauer> Being paid in computer can be cool. But not quite that way.
18:32:49 <dkeav> E450's are cool, but Cash is cooler
18:32:52 <CrtxReavr> You don't realize how loud an E450 was, when it's one of many in a datacenter with loud AC.
18:33:13 <CrtxReavr> But man, when you plug it in, in your quiet house. ... yikes!
18:33:13 <dkeav> yea you can't run that datacenter grade iron at home
18:33:20 <dkeav> not without a lot of sound proofing
18:33:29 <CrtxReavr> "datacenter grade"
18:33:45 <dkeav> well, datacenter sold anyways
18:33:46 <CrtxReavr> Please, thoe PCI-based Sun had dreadful DOA & failure rates.
18:34:19 <dkeav> don't forget the chatter of the scsi's
18:50:58 <CrtxReavr> Couldn't compete with the roar of the fans.
18:58:38 <pertho> ran Solaris 8-9 on UltraSparc IIIs.. those cpus were slow as hell
18:58:51 <pertho> Intel ran circles around it
19:16:23 <angry_vincent>  anyone, who have ryzen systems, does powerd ( or else power daemon ) work ?
19:22:18 <PredatorONormies> no idea, don't use it
19:43:03 <hd1> I'd like to remove /compat/linux
19:43:51 <hd1> a simple rm -Rf /compat/linux yields lots of messages like "/compat/linux/sys/subsystem: Operation not supported"
19:45:06 <cracauer> Unmount the filesystems inside first.
19:51:26 <hd1> I hav
19:51:27 <hd1> e
20:08:33 <cracauer> Then how come there is anything in sys/ ?
20:09:36 <hd1> that's the mystery, my man
20:11:14 <Sircle> Which freebsd fork is has most ready to go features? ui, setup, etc
20:12:59 <hd1> I didn't umount it completely, and it
20:13:08 <hd1> 's now gone the way of the dodo
20:13:13 <hd1> thanks for the help
23:07:14 <BobSlacker> guys, I moved from quartely to latest on my 13.1 instalation and I can't find kde5 on the repo anymore.
23:07:31 <BobSlacker> Does anyone know anything about this?
23:33:46 <cracauer> According to freshports it is not building on amd64 for 13.x https://www.freshports.org/x11/kde5
23:33:47 <VimDiesel> Title: FreshPorts -- x11/kde5: KDE Plasma Desktop and Applications (current)