00:00:45 <V_PauAmma_V> Pssst. All words are made up.
00:01:22 <parv> No!? You don't say.
00:12:05 <rkve> Hello everyone!
00:12:35 <rkve> It looks like someone got the kernel at least running on AllWinner D1. Is there any hope for HDMI?
00:15:30 <parv> What architecture is that? Some RISC?
00:15:53 <rkve> RISC-V
00:16:24 <rkve> It is probably the first cheap RV SBC...
00:16:54 <rkve> As in less than 40$.
00:19:03 <rkve> It's based on T-Head's OpenC906.
00:19:25 <rkve> Only the core, though.
02:58:00 <Fudge> having a difficult time geting X/Mate to work
03:04:08 <rwp> I am not running Mate but am running X.  What is the behavior?
03:06:57 <Fudge> rwp:  most of my prob im sure is that i cant see the screen, as per vision loss. but couldnt connect to Xserver, cant run from a console session. im not sure if mate installed properly. i dont see it listed in sessions
03:10:36 <rwp> How are you starting X?  Using an xdm X Display Manager like xdm, gdm, slim, lightdm?  Or logging in and using xinit, startx?
03:11:46 <rwp> Are you able to read my text here okay?  Or is this going through a screen reader?
03:46:49 <Fudge> rwp:  so sory was helping my son with steam, yes using a csreenreader mate, gnome-orca or just orca now
03:47:18 <Fudge> rwp:  i want to use lightdm as it usually is quite good but anything that orca will launch is acceptable
03:47:34 <Fudge> or also ahppy to just use startx, my xinitrc is basic though
04:51:44 <rwp> Fudge, Okay.  You would like to install lightdm.  Have you?  Or have you been trying startx?
04:52:12 <rwp> I customize my .xinitrc file so I use xinit.  startx is the same but uses the system default .xinitrc file.
04:53:15 <rwp> If you tried to start X with startx then the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log will log the results including errors.  Errors are marked with "EE" on the line.
04:54:41 <rwp> Also for my graphics adaptor I must modify the file /etc/rc.conf by adding kld_list="radeonkms"
04:55:05 <rwp> It is possible that you will need to modify your file /etc/rc.conf for your specific graphics hardware too.  I don't know.
04:59:19 <Fudge> rwp:  it's a little lenovo, think it is intel
05:00:32 <Fudge> ill read the log
05:01:58 <Fudge> i dont hhave any generated conf there memory serves you can configure one and then copy that to the usr/local/ confdir. is it Xorg  -configure?
05:02:22 <Fudge> log is complaining missing sections as the only conf i have in the xorg.conf.d directory is a driver-intel.conf
05:10:16 <Fudge> rwp:  i have a xorg.conf i generated, moved it into place
05:14:48 <Fudge> ok installed slim, ive added mounting of proc to fstab but am stuck on enabling hald, im not sure what the package is called
05:50:09 <cpet> wasnt hald removed in favor or something else ?
05:54:21 <cpet> devd
05:59:12 <rwp> What has led you to think you need to do something with hald?
05:59:20 <rwp> I have no idea anything about hald.  Never heard of it.  I didn't do anything about it.  Haven't enabled it.
06:07:45 <cpet> back in the day you needed to enable hald to get devices to work for such WM as xfce
06:08:03 <cpet> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_%28software%29
06:08:05 <VimDiesel> Title: HAL (software) - Wikipedia
06:35:42 <rwp> As far as I can tell hald is the old way of doing things but is now deprecated with devd being the current default.
06:35:57 <cpet> yes I said that
06:38:15 <nerozero> just updated bsd, to p4 and restarted, but uname a shows this : FreeBSD 13.1-RELEASE-p3
06:38:31 <nerozero> further update tells that all update to p4 is installed
06:38:44 <cpet> freebsd-version
06:38:59 <nerozero> is p4
06:39:05 <cpet> thank you come again
06:39:06 <nerozero> but uname is p3 ...
06:39:48 <nerozero> should I worry about that ?
06:39:50 <cpet> not all patches require a kernel recompile
06:40:07 <nerozero> on a different machine it become p4 ...
06:41:23 <cpet> what did you do on that machine that you didint dso on this one
06:41:43 <nerozero> nothing :)
06:41:49 <nerozero> freebsd-update fetch install
06:41:59 <nerozero> then pkg update && pkg upgrade -fy
06:42:07 <cpet> no reboot ?
06:42:13 <nerozero> both rebooted
06:43:48 <cpet> if freebsd-version says p4 I wouldn't worry about it
06:44:12 <nerozero> ok, thanks
06:44:18 <cpet> see if my VM says p4
06:44:56 <cpet> I need to update hah
06:45:01 <nerozero> :D
06:45:25 <nerozero> if u host php things, the default php is now 81
06:45:50 <nerozero> sense yesterday
06:48:27 <cpet> yeah I dont see a kernel so it will stay at p3
06:55:35 <nerozero> cpet, thanks !
06:56:21 <nerozero> i guess the difference where one machine where updated from p2 -> p4 and the one with p4 is from p3->p4
06:56:56 <cpet> the only thing that changes uname is a new kernel
06:57:35 * cpet updates php80
06:57:35 <nerozero> thank you ! now I'm relaxed
09:07:34 <Fudge> hi ya
09:09:35 <megaTherion> hi
09:17:49 <Fudge> megaTherion:  how is your day thus far
09:18:19 <megaTherion> first coffee, got up .. its around 10:18 here :(
09:18:36 <megaTherion> but well not too bad, its sunday at least
09:18:59 <Fudge> 819pm here
09:19:06 <Fudge> bet youre glad for the sleep in
09:19:33 <megaTherion> yup
09:19:56 <Fudge> my moring coffe is a mocha
09:21:08 <Fudge> megaTherion:  ive been trying to get X running unsuccessfully. my /usr/local/etc/X11/xort.cond.d directory has driver-intel.conf and xorg.conf in it from X -configure
09:21:10 <megaTherion> cool :)
09:21:15 <megaTherion> oh X
09:21:27 <megaTherion> on what machine?
09:21:39 <Fudge> ill get the model, it's a lenovo
09:21:59 <Fudge> Lenovo ideacentre 510S-07ICB
09:21:59 <megaTherion> whats Xorg.0.log showing?
09:22:38 <Fudge> best way to run is just sstartx right, my .xinitrc is pointing at mate-session which is installed
09:22:55 <megaTherion> you always get a log
09:23:03 <megaTherion> regardless how you run it
09:24:04 <megaTherion> just checking what it is, its an all-in-one device ok
09:24:19 <Fudge> yes
09:24:24 <megaTherion> Intel UHD 630
09:24:36 <Fudge> just installing wgetpaste
09:24:57 <megaTherion> you have xf86-video-intel installed?
09:25:28 <Fudge> devices detected but none match what is in the config file
09:26:04 <Fudge> likely not, i remembered something today about installing video xorg drivers
09:26:11 <megaTherion> yes its missing the driver then
09:26:16 <Fudge> no it wasnt
09:26:33 <Fudge> pretty sure i always just used to use etiher dummy or vesa
09:26:50 <megaTherion> uhh?
09:27:03 <megaTherion> vesa is close to useless on modern hw
09:28:23 <Fudge> xorg.wrap only console users are allowed to run the server
09:28:47 <Fudge> well dummy as it is usually headless and vesa as being blind dont really need to use anything important
09:29:02 <megaTherion> so you want to run Xorg for remote purposes?
09:30:42 <Fudge> nah i do want to run it on the machine in front of me but the screen output is only ever important if i nee dsomeone to look at the screen for me
09:32:05 <megaTherion> ...
09:32:20 <megaTherion> if you want to start X properly then you need the intel driver *shrugs*
09:33:45 <Fudge> yes it said it failed to load
09:34:06 <Fudge> loading intel, coudnt load module intel
09:34:16 <Fudge> i think it is looking in /usr/local/share though
09:52:07 <Fudge> megaTherion:  night
13:15:19 <nerozero> hello, can I compile php80 ?
13:15:44 <nerozero> poudriere automatically compiles php81
13:18:13 <meka> nerozero: this is what I have in my pkglist file www/nextcloud@php80
13:18:34 <meka> So use whatever php version as flavor
13:19:41 <V_PauAmma_V> nerozero, are you asking about PHP 8.0 itself, or compiling other ports for use with that version?
13:21:31 <nerozero> no, i need PHP itself
13:21:58 <nerozero> poudriere list: lang/php80
13:22:03 <nerozero> compiles php81
13:27:16 <nerozero> and can I have both 81 and 80 in poudriere ?
13:32:30 <angry_vincent> yes
13:35:22 <nerozero> ok, ignore me, i'm an idiot .... I was trying to install package with a version included which where upgraded ...
13:35:33 <nerozero> sorry guys, thank you for help
16:10:03 <antranigv> here's a silly question. can I build an time based backdoor in freebsd? say the customer wants to debug some things, but we don't actually give them root, instead we use an OTP thingie
16:10:07 <antranigv> has anyone tried that?
16:10:32 <cpet> no
16:10:45 <cpet> think that was removed for being old
16:12:47 <antranigv> Okay, I see opie in the system right now, I'll try that
16:13:06 <cpet> it will be removed in 14
16:16:00 <antranigv> :(
16:16:11 <antranigv> cpet any idea if there's an alternative?
16:17:30 <cpet> give them root ?
16:21:01 <daemon> or sudo access to a specific executable
16:21:03 <nimaje> sudo? you can restrict what they can do a little bit with sudo, but afaik it isn't made well
18:32:59 <rtprio> what are you saying, you can restrict a lot with sudo
18:34:20 <nimaje> yeah, but you patternmatch on command strings for example, instead of on argument arrays
18:34:36 <rtprio> antranigv: you can set an expiration date in the account, along with a cronjob to kill any processes they have open at the time
18:52:31 <daemon> or stick every user in a jail and just nuke the jail :D
18:53:08 <cpet> wheres the fun it that ?
19:06:33 <rtprio> daemon: sure, but he said the user needed to debug some things, presumably things that are on the system itself, not a random jail
19:09:27 <cpet> you can debug software as a user
19:17:50 <rwp> sudo can restrict on argument lists too.
19:17:51 <rwp> But if someone needs to debug something and needs root to debug something then trying to restrict them is just going to frustrate everyone involved.
19:22:23 <cpet> i would just cancel
19:22:25 <cpet> heh
19:28:23 <rwp> I see several choices.  1) BOFH not do anything 2) give root away so they can debug it 3) recreate the problem in a jail and let them debug in the jail 4) debug the problem yourself
19:28:48 <cpet> give them root
19:28:51 <cpet> do they pay for it
19:29:03 <rwp> The safest option all around would be to reproduce the problem in a jail.
19:29:30 <cpet> what is this a shared server ?
19:29:39 <cpet> even VPS
19:29:41 <rwp> Meanwhile...  I don't think anyone has mentioned the nature of the problem.  It really could be anything.  So who knows what is actually happening.
19:29:42 <cpet> 's give you rtoot
19:29:44 <cpet> root
19:30:03 <cpet> if he messes things up its on him
19:30:25 <cpet> this is where you get money to fix it for him then charge
19:30:36 <cpet> doing it this way you miss out on possible monies
19:31:06 <daemon> could go a bit fruiter and recreate it in bhyve
19:31:13 <rwp> We don't know the details.  What if the customer that needed to debug the problem was your mom?  The devil is in the details.
19:31:16 <daemon> zfs snapshots etc reproduce the enviroment
19:31:48 <daemon> also the BOFH option would involve carpet's and lime ;)
19:32:13 <rwp> Friends help you move.  Real friends help you move bodies.  That type of thing?  :-)
19:32:22 <cpet> rwp, lets not go there ok?
19:32:40 <daemon> Here is a debug ethernet adapter, you plug the other end into the mains outlet to do live debugging; indeed :P
19:33:14 <rwp> The reason jails would be more apropos than bhyve is that the problem, whatever it is, is existent in the current system.  So it does not need a different OS running.  And then jails are just easier.
19:33:32 <daemon> you know im not sure if they are
19:33:37 <cpet> ask user what it is
19:33:46 <cpet> depending on what service he bought its either yes or no
19:33:59 <daemon> I would say bhyve and jails are pretty much the same level of complexity, the only difference is what you are used to
19:34:03 <cpet> ded server vs VPS vs shell
19:34:18 <cpet> dont think you have mentioned that
19:34:52 <daemon> 16:10, <antranigv> here's a silly question. can I build an time based backdoor in freebsd? say the customer wants to debug some things, but we don't actually give them root, instead we use an OTP thingie
19:34:52 <daemon> 16:10, <antranigv> has anyone tried that?
19:35:13 <cpet> that doesnt mention anythign i said
19:35:19 <cpet> is it a shell VPS server
19:35:26 <daemon> well yeah I was dragging it down as it was ^ up there
19:35:27 <daemon> for context
19:35:29 <cpet> is it software HW some weird shit done in ASM ?
19:35:34 <cpet> does it actually require root
19:35:34 <daemon> antranigv, ?
19:36:08 <daemon> no matter what it is, there is no realistically reason the system could not be cloned and run somewhere
19:36:21 <daemon> which surely would be the safest path
19:36:24 <daemon> staging system style
19:37:05 <cpet> well if the user bought a "server" i expect root on it
19:37:12 <cpet> but again he hasnt mentioned his setup
19:37:31 <cpet> or software I can possibly build it faster than the time he has been here heh
19:42:28 <daemon> :)
19:42:41 <daemon> that's not fair all of us have icantbearsed.sh <do this>
19:42:42 <daemon> :P
19:42:59 <cpet> daemon, life isnt fair
19:43:23 <daemon> tell me about it I learned perl so I could deal with freebsd 4.x and ended up a developer for it -_-
19:43:45 <cpet> gop tinker with openbsd ports
19:43:48 <cpet> still uses perl
19:44:21 <daemon> perl is the glue that binds the universe together; it comes up everywhere
19:44:26 <daemon> even now
19:44:32 <cpet> sadly yes
19:44:56 <daemon> ~ modern perl actually is not so bad, but there is a lot .... A LOT of the older stuff out there
19:46:04 <rwp> One of the best things about Perl is that they take backward compatibility very seriously.  Very rare to break an old working script.
19:46:22 <rwp> Which makes it one of the most reliable and solid languages in the system.
19:51:16 <mns> unless you use perl6/raku, and even then a lot of things still work it seems.
19:52:01 <rwp> perl6/raku is no longer officially the next version of perl.  Now Raku is just a separate language that is available.
19:52:20 <daemon> ye perl 7 / perl 5.34
19:52:30 <daemon> which is just perl 5 with warnings stricts and signatures
19:53:49 <daemon> to be honset after what must be 15 years of perl, I find my self secretly going to see the secret mistress of rust on my off hours lol
19:54:39 <rwp> Rust and Go-lang are the two new rising stars.  But have you tried to bootstrap Rust from scratch!  OMG!  It's quite the challenge.
19:54:40 <cpet> i have more hatred towardfs OS than languages
19:57:34 <daemon> I mean ... I do not really have hate more or less either way
19:58:06 <daemon> I came to the conclusion a while ago that freebsd does well on servers, linux as a guest to bhyve on said servers (for docker etc) and windows on desktop
19:58:15 <daemon> and it all just smushes together quite nicely so you can have everything
19:58:55 <daemon> meanwhile I would be curious about a rust based API for web services, some js or php client thing for people to look at or maybe perl/mojo with postgres/redis doing the data storage
19:59:02 <daemon> eh ~ everything has its place
19:59:02 <rwp> I was right there with you, right up until "windows on desktop" and at that point you lost me.  Nope.  Nope.  Nope.  :-)
19:59:34 <daemon> I play a few games here and there windows is easier for me to deal with :)
19:59:46 <daemon> I think a lot of BSD'ers use mac for there desktop driver though
20:00:01 <cpet> :(
20:00:32 <rwp> I am running Devuan on the desktop, have a Windows VM for the games I enjoy.  (Those games are not high demanding graphics games though.)
20:01:05 <daemon> dislike systemd? :D
20:01:21 <rwp> But on this desktop upon which I am typing it is a native bare metal FreeBSD system.  And I am slowly working through the problems of FreeBSD on mobile laptops.
20:02:16 <daemon> I had the fun of trialling both linux and freebsd in 'desktop mode' on my home system, (the one im typing on now) both of which crashed brutally, the only linux I could get to even vaguelly work was gentoo; which looked bizzare
20:02:17 <rwp> Me?  Dislike systemd?  Let me put it this way.  https://preview.redd.it/v58nvac1rl1a1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=4cc143f837530384ce3b82b3d308a5402ed42af9
20:02:45 <daemon> I can't fault you for that I use gentoo/openrc for my bhyve clients lol
20:03:32 <rwp> Also the Devuan community is very friendly and helpful.  It pains me that I can no longer describe the Debian community similarly.
20:04:35 <daemon> absolutely no opposition there it was my alt-linux for quite a while
20:04:39 <daemon> when I needed one to just install and work
20:04:46 <daemon> it still is technically
20:05:28 <rwp> For people who want a desktop with a rolling release then I find Void to be quite reasonable and enjoyable for a bleeding edge desktop OS.
20:05:45 <daemon> ~ is that the same flavour or profile as Manjaro
20:05:56 <rwp> For people who want compact and efficient then Alpine is most often used for containers for that reason.
20:06:44 <daemon> I believe that was percisely why alpine was created for docker stuff
20:06:56 <rwp> I do thank systemd though for causing me to re-evaluate things and rediscover FreeBSD.  I have been ramping up my FreeBSD and have been enjoying it greatly.
20:07:01 <daemon> it does not even use glibc it has ... something else I can't remember the name of
20:07:16 <rwp> MUSL is the small compact libc on Alpine that is not glibc.
20:07:23 <daemon> gotcha
20:07:24 <cpet> daemon, libc
20:08:01 <daemon> there is another one as well, uslibc or something I need to try LFS again
20:08:05 <rwp> At one time there was a branch of Alpine that included glibc so it isn't impossible there but that is no longer active.  Moribund.
20:09:33 <daemon> uclibc
20:09:47 <rwp> daemon, What type of system crash problems were you having?  That is usually a hardware problem but I recently had to give up on nVidia due to the nouveau driver becoming unstable in Unstable.
20:10:21 <daemon> rwp, both the proprietary and nouvue(sp?) driver for X crashed with the card I have
20:10:32 <daemon>  Client: HexChat 2.16.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro (x64) • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor              (4.20GHz) • Memory: 63.9 GiB Total (47.6 GiB Free) • Storage: 1.2 TiB / 1.8 TiB (626.6 GiB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 • Uptime: 1w 0d 1h 24m 9s
20:10:38 <daemon> 3060
20:10:41 <rwp> I am fortunate in that as a craphound I have a variety of different bits of kit available such that mixing and matching until supportable hardware is available is possible for me.
20:11:18 <rwp> You had problems with nVidia.  I had problems with nVidia.  Others have been reporting problems.  Hmm...  Seems to be a trend line in there somewhere... :-)
20:11:41 <daemon> though linux also had problems I think its because my resolution combined across screens is so nutty
20:12:05 <rwp> I switched graphics adaptors to an AMD GPU for my dual monitors and have not had any problems.
20:13:18 <cpet> daemon, what is taking up so much eh?
20:13:18 <cpet> heh
20:14:15 <daemon> https://i.imgur.com/VfFloSF.png
20:14:16 <daemon> ^
20:14:53 <rwp> Nice.  You see me I would have made that a 2x2 grid.  :-)
20:15:13 <daemon> it won't work
20:15:19 <daemon> I had that idea too
20:15:30 <daemon> but the ultra widescreen in the middle and the two side screens do not equate equally
20:15:34 <daemon> also there different Hz
20:15:44 <daemon> the two side screens are 60's the middle is 144Hz
20:15:55 <daemon> also there different dpi's
20:16:00 <rwp> Gotcha.  Oh well.
20:16:09 <cpet> i just use the pc ;/
20:16:13 <daemon> im not sure if its my gpu or screen layout that causes an issue
20:16:22 <daemon> but yeah linux nor bsd appreciate it
20:17:06 <daemon> nor does the proprietary nvidia driver though that when you try to use it in either OS hard locks the system
20:17:19 <cpet> i may use one of these monitors for the BSD machine VNCing isnt cutting it
20:18:00 <daemon> never get a UXWA screen seriously they are not worth the pain
20:18:07 <daemon> even in windows, every game needs mods
20:18:12 <daemon> nothing supports it really
20:18:25 <cpet> these are two LEGION Lenovos
20:18:35 <cpet> one connected using display port other HDMI
20:19:09 <daemon> kinda crappy could net get display port to both, limited by ports on the card?
20:19:15 <daemon> s/net/not/
20:21:07 <rwp> cpet my PC personal computers are either Devuan or FreeBSD.  PC is the hardware not the software!
20:21:56 <cpet> Windows VNC into FreeBSD or OpenBSD
20:21:58 <rwp> Anyway...  I must drop afk for a while.  Goodnight everyone, I'll remember you all in therapy.
20:22:13 <cpet> therapy doesnt work
20:22:24 <daemon> I sometimes like to play about with the idea of getting a monster rig, something like a EPYC with 3 GPU's (me+daughter+mrs) and having a single system in the house and monitor+usb hub throwouts
20:22:34 <daemon> rwp, good luck in therapy :)
20:22:50 <cpet> dont see a point my RX5500 can run almost any game at full
20:23:23 <cpet> if you run freebsd or linux you dont need a beefy gfx card either
20:24:32 <yuripv> hm yeah, time to play fo4
20:24:41 <rtprio> people still play that?
20:24:59 <yuripv> daemon made me do it (with their screenshot)
20:25:27 <cpet> daemon, is that windows 10?
20:29:10 <daemon> yuripv, try You Only Live Once mod :P
20:29:16 <daemon> cpet, windows 11
20:29:35 <cpet> daemon, ssh in a cli program
20:29:39 <cpet> get putty off :(
20:30:28 <Erhard> Anyone having issue with freebsd dns? Having numerous strange dns issues on multiple machines using completely different nameservers
20:30:28 <daemon> I have full WSL so could, but im used to putty :) infact both putty and ssh have equal links to my secure keys and both are interoperable
20:30:57 <cpet> dont use keys
20:31:16 <daemon> Erhard,
20:31:16 <daemon> ➜  ~ host freebsd.org
20:31:16 <daemon> freebsd.org has address 96.47.72.84
20:31:16 <daemon> freebsd.org has IPv6 address 2610:1c1:1:606c::50:15
20:31:17 <daemon> Host freebsd.org not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
20:31:26 <daemon> ... I would assume something in the nameserver rotation is down
20:31:34 <Erhard> k
20:31:44 <cpet> do it again
20:31:53 <daemon> same result
20:32:29 <cpet> for what git?
20:32:57 <daemon> freebsd.org name server ns5.he.net.
20:32:58 <daemon> ^
20:33:00 <daemon> that one
20:33:04 <daemon> is not responding
20:33:23 <cpet> works fine here
20:33:41 <daemon> Erhard, try this command: ➜  ~ host freebsd.org ns5.he.net
20:33:47 <daemon> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
20:33:54 <Erhard> That one works here
20:34:04 <Erhard> pkg: http://pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:13:amd64/quarterly/packagesite.pkg: No address record
20:34:06 <daemon> must just be me why does ns5 dislike me :(
20:34:13 <daemon> Erhard, ➜  ~ host -t NS freebsd.org
20:34:16 <Erhard> And other errors on various machines around the globe actually
20:34:26 <daemon> from the list is returns, try: host freebsd.org <nameserver>
20:34:31 <Erhard> 2,3,4,5
20:34:41 <cpet> works fine here
20:35:02 <cpet> is that really your prompt cause thats ugly
20:35:03 <Erhard> They all resolve freebsd.org
20:35:12 <daemon> oh wait it might be more specific
20:35:24 <daemon> pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org
20:35:28 <daemon> ➜  ~ host -t NS pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org
20:35:31 <Erhard> But pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org fails
20:35:32 <daemon> is just hanging for me
20:35:35 <daemon> no returns
20:35:36 <Erhard> yes
20:35:41 <Erhard> Same here
20:35:42 <daemon> Host pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
20:35:51 <daemon> so whatever nameserver that is, is unhappy
20:36:12 <Erhard> Was having trouble last night too
20:36:25 <cpet> https://pastebin.com/46XmRQad
20:36:26 <VimDiesel> Title: hris@hp:~ % host freebsd.org ns5.he.netUsing domain server:Name: ns5.he.net - Pastebin.com
20:36:30 <daemon> hmm who deals with nameservers that is under ferebsd.org
20:36:53 <cpet> hes on efnet
20:37:00 <daemon> urg who
20:38:17 <cpet> which service has an issue cause you can just open a PR
20:38:52 <daemon> no need I am on efnet and in #freebsd I just do not connect to the bouncer unless I absolutely have to
20:39:00 <daemon> we need to close efnet and just move everyone here >..
20:39:06 <cpet> hell no
20:39:17 <Kalten> daemon: does `host -v freebsd.org ns5.he.net` state something fishy?
20:39:17 <cpet> #freebsdhelp
20:39:49 <cpet> rying "freebsd.org"
20:39:49 <cpet> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46965
20:40:10 <daemon> ka
20:40:12 <daemon> Kalten,
20:40:12 <daemon> ➜  ~ host -v freebsd.org ns5.he.net
20:40:13 <daemon> Trying "freebsd.org"
20:40:13 <daemon> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
20:41:08 <Erhard> It works here with that ns5, but the pkg url fails.
20:41:25 <daemon> Erhard, ns5 and pkg seem to be locationally based
20:41:30 <daemon> that is where you query them from matters
20:41:36 <daemon> ns5 works from my us servers but nothing in the uk
20:41:38 <Erhard> Makes sense
20:41:39 <Kalten> daemon: but the NS does resolve other host, e.g. www.google.com?
20:41:56 <daemon> Kalten, works for ns1,2,3,4
20:42:02 <daemon> just ns5 being weird
20:42:11 <cpet> do you really need 5?
20:42:12 <cpet> heh
20:42:21 <cpet> even HE says its optional
20:42:27 <daemon> I don't the issue is Erhard's problem to access pkg
20:42:35 <daemon> which I cannot resolve either
20:45:09 <daemon> https://dpaste.org/wPiwZ
20:45:49 <cpet> pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org has no NS record
20:45:49 <daemon> https://dpaste.org/48LQh sorry
20:46:03 <daemon> oh god I was meant to resolev the A record
20:46:04 <daemon> ...
20:46:05 <cpet> it uses that other thing
20:46:23 <daemon> every record should have a NS record anyway
20:46:32 <daemon> ➜  ~ host -t A pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org 8.8.8.8
20:46:32 <daemon> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
20:46:32 <daemon> #
20:46:42 <daemon> but even the A records are failing via google and cloudflare
20:46:49 <daemon> unless you meant a GLUE record
20:56:39 <Kalten> daemon: as a workaround: does setting nameserver to a working on in /etc/resolv.conf (or is he on Win*? There was such a file in the past too, I think. Maybe one can still create it? Or set another DNS in the GUI)
21:00:08 <cpet> daemon, traceroute ns2.he.net and gns1.freebsd.org
21:03:23 <cpet> http://pkg.freebsd.org/ mirrors are listed at the bottom
21:17:45 <daemon> Kalten, in system32 on windows there is a host file
21:17:52 <daemon> but no this is from my BSD gateway
21:18:22 <daemon> but its time to walk the doggo
21:18:45 <daemon> I would point out though 1.1.1.1 is cloudflares ns server and 8.8.8.8 is googles
21:18:53 <Kalten> daemon: ah yes! And iff I remember correctly, you can copy a resolv.conf there and it is obbeyed
21:19:09 <daemon> so the fact that neither can resolve pkgmir.geo.freebsd.org hints at the issue Erhard has :P
21:19:19 <daemon> Kalten, yep its the same bind style
21:36:37 <hubertm> how to use two (or more) search terms with 'pkg search' command?
21:38:00 <daemon> grep
21:38:29 <hubertm> how to search from package description field instead of just package name?
21:38:38 <cpet> -S
21:38:47 <cpet> er -D
21:41:31 <devnull> Hi guys, DNS git.freebsd.org is down?
21:41:35 <devnull> [00:00:00] Updating portstree "HEAD" with git+https...fatal: unable to access 'https://git.FreeBSD.org/ports.git/': Could not resolve host: git.FreeBSD.org
21:41:43 <cpet> yes
21:43:19 <cpet> devnull, where you located at?
21:45:39 <devnull> cpet north virginia. But https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/git.freebsd.org.html says is down for every locations.
21:45:40 <VimDiesel> Title: Git.freebsd.org - Is Git Down Right Now?
21:49:06 <cpet> devnull, just did a git pull on ports
21:54:36 <devnull> cpet in poudriere, need I to change the address?
21:54:52 <cpet> devnull, go for a walk and try again
22:17:06 <devnull> cpet thats ok, thanks. I didn't know if the link was down temporary or permanently.
22:17:53 <cpet> devnull, it only takes one subsea cable to break to have noticeable effects all over