05:19:55 compiling duke3d is like watching bitchx compile 05:51:27 lol 05:51:36 cpet: just install it from packages 05:51:48 or use some quake variant from the same 07:21:14 i set hint.pcm..eq=1 in /boot/loader.conf for n = 0-3 – yet I don't get bass/treble knobs in mixer after rebooting. sysctl dev.pcm only shows me 0-3, as does ls /dev/mixer* – does the equalizer depend on some hardware feature or something? 07:22:03 (also not getting them if passing -f /dev/mixer0[-3] to mixer) 07:49:59 phryk, does the driver actually support the other channels 07:54:31 cpet: how would i even know? kldstat | grep snd doesn't show anything, so I'm not even sure what driver is used… 07:57:43 should see it in dmesg 07:58:35 https://pastebin.com/kUQD3A7N 07:58:37 Title: pcm0: at nid 3 on hdaa0pcm1: - Pastebin.com 07:58:59 I have 3 plugins it only shows one which is the middle green one 07:59:11 so yeah :) 07:59:54 now when I had a sound blaster audigy which was the sound card to have back in the day it showed all the plugins as that card is nicely supported 09:32:30 Can confirm that it was indeed the sound card to have 11:59:16 how do i just "start over" and reinstall freebsd without using an old cd? is it deleting everything in /usr/local/bin and unpacking base.tgz and all that? 12:00:20 only one DE works (xfce4) and well dwm works but the text is so small, nothing else not even twm 12:17:10 Is there anyway to escape variables in rc.conf? for example   node_exporter_args="--collector.ntp --no-collector.zfs --collector.filesystem.fs-types-exclude='^(devfs|nfs)$'" 12:18:30 A quick google search shows someone else has recently had this issue, but there is no resolution eg https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/need-help-specifying-args-in-rc-conf-for-node_exporter.78268/ 12:18:32 Title: Need help specifying args in rc.conf for node_exporter | The FreeBSD Forums 13:45:08 superblavman: seems to work this way: node_exporter_args="--collector.ntp --no-collector.zfs --collector.filesystem.fs-types-exclude=^\\(devfs\\|nfs\\)\\$" 14:15:30 Does anyone have experience building a Go program? I'm trying to build Aerc mail client with notmuch support and it requires a notmuch.h header. It's present in /usr/local/include but the linker still can't see it. I tried prepending the make command with 'GO_EXTRA_LDFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include' but the result's the same. 14:29:04 What the linker wants is likely not the include file itself, but the lib... never mind. 14:34:06 Anyway, if they come back: courtesy of "pkg provides notmuch", -I probably goes into the compiler flags instead, and the linker flags should probably have -L/usr/local/lib instead. 16:26:22 pmnw, think you want -I which include or ads a search dir for /usr/local/includ as it defaults to /usr/include 16:30:30 pmnw, so you would change build_cmd:=$(GO) build $(BUILD_OPTS) $(GOFLAGS) -ldflags -I/usr/local/include "$(GO_LDFLAGS)" -o aerc to include -I/usr/local/include 16:30:46 ugly but works if this isnt a port/start of a port 18:20:29 cpet: thanks for this - will try it as soon as I have the chance; it really is quite a mess of a workaround :) 18:25:39 pmnw, if you aren't making a port does it really matter how you compile it ? 22:17:45 anybody know if fbsd will function on a late2013 macbook pro? 22:21:38 may want #freebsd-ppc 22:28:17 2013'd be Intel I think 22:28:44 ppc in Macs is ancient at this point 22:29:27 well the point of that was != wrong channel 22:30:17 Oh, you mean "there might be Apple hardware people in there?" 22:30:42 why wopuld I spenr 3 grand on a laptop to install freebsd on it 22:30:44 heh 22:31:05 More likely, someone already has one and decides they want FreeBSD. 22:31:32 it will jujst a pain to install 22:31:33 I had one of them and it had a gorgeous display. I gave it away to someone who needed a machine. 22:31:41 may have better support with NetBSD 22:33:19 Some of this might be relevant, despite this being for older-than-2013: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/success-installing-freebsd-13-0-on-macbook-pro-5-5.80458/ 22:33:20 Title: Success: Installing FreeBSD 13.0 on MacBook Pro 5,5 | The FreeBSD Forums 22:39:19 When you have a Universal Operating System, and you have some bit of hardware kit, you want to run that operating system on that kit. Makes sense to me. 22:41:43 What. 22:43:36 People wanting to install FreeBSD on a 2013 Macbook Pro. 22:44:05 I think I missed several memos. 22:44:11 I don't know why anyone would spend the Apple premium to buy a 2022 Mac and immediately want to install something else upon it. 22:45:20 Seems to me that 2013 and 2022 aren't the same year. 22:45:30 It was 28 minutes ago that someone asked about installing FreeBSD on a 2013 Macbook Pro. Makes sense to me. 22:46:10 So instead of helping you go on some tirade? 22:47:58 rwp wasn't on a tirade. There was earlier confusion about why one might want to install FreeBSD on a Mac, disregarding the age of the hardware in question. 22:48:36 One good reason for installing FreeBSD on a 2013 Macbook is that Apple no longer provides software updates for it. 22:49:02 At least they don't for the 2012 that I own, so I imagine 2013 is either in the same bucket or will be soon. 22:50:05 Here I was commenting upon someone else's tirade and didn't realize I was creating my own. I guess I now see how these things escalate quickly. 22:50:54 rwp: But look how fast it was de-escalated! :) 22:52:04 Thanks for being the adult in the room! It's appreciated it! :-) 22:52:15 For the record, https://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook is probably the best source of information, cf. things like asmc(4) which is still occationally updated. 22:52:17 Title: AppleMacbook - FreeBSD Wiki 22:52:52 Ah, good to know. I didn't notice that on a quick search, and pointed the person to a forum post instead that seems potentially close. 22:54:20 I am running FreeBSD on a year 2008 Thinkpad x201 with 4GB of RAM and it runs acceptably well. But... 22:54:30 WiFi is problematic. Buggy. I am chasing bugs. I'll make a bug report when I get time to converge on things a little more. 22:54:45 I have not tried WiFi Box ("wifibox") yet but that's soon on the list. I can see it being successful where native is failing. 23:25:38 rwp I was running FreeBSD on my x200 with 8GB of RAM and it ran acceptably well. BUT... wireless was terrible. While the wireless for me worked at home, when travelling - my mom's linux laptop connected to the various hotspots... my FreeBSD was hit-or-miss, at best. When I returned home, I installed debian back on my laptop :( FreeBSD Foundation has some initiatives to improve 23:25:44 wifi/wireless. 23:34:44 just to counter my last negative FBSD post - my htpc is currently running linux and is trying to delete TB off a zfs deduped-pool (after 3 days it's down from 11TB down to 6TB). I would "bet money" FreeBSD could do it a lot faster! 23:35:14 you mention FreeBSD yet its offtopic ? 23:38:12 "friends don't let friends run dedupe" <- a very smart FreeBSD person (think FreshPorts) said that. He's probably right. 23:38:17 more RAM could do it a lot faster 23:38:54 limit it 23:39:06 yuripv: LOL it typcially has 64GB... BUT right now it only has 16GB <- another cause, NOT regarding linux vs bsd! 23:39:36 give zfs 64GB it will gladly take it with a grin and a finger 23:39:47 i still have free ram, but linux doesn't show arc very well :( 23:39:50 more so with dedup 23:39:58 cpet: with dedup, that is true! 23:40:19 I never though I could use 64GB of RAM... dedup proved me wrong 23:40:25 ARC 23:40:46 different guides say ~16-20GB of RAM per TB of deduped pool, count yourself 23:40:58 you can tune it and still have nice speeds 23:41:27 i have 24gb of ram and I tunr zfs for 1gig 23:42:00 cpet: right now NFS is totally broken from that machine, to my FBSD desktop. I like FreeBSD's "the nfs server is not responding" error message, you don't get that on linux. 23:42:28 ok 23:43:32 * zykotick9 should shutdown and fix the memory issue, but he's very lazy, it's probably more than 1/2 way at this point. 23:50:46 any who turkey eat and watch movies with the pups 23:50:54 day* 23:50:59 happy turkey day! 23:51:36 * zykotick9 is Canadian, this isn't Thanksgiving ;) 23:51:54 i dont celebrate it just a reason to make decent food 23:52:03 freeze half and eat in in xmas so I dont cook 23:52:20 nice. enjoy!