01:20:01 can anyone check this? https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37383 did I change too much? 01:20:03 Title: ⚙ D37383 service(8): add -s for showing status 01:47:19 antranigv, it was accepted why do you need more noise ? 01:48:22 cpet oh no no it still needs more review. there are some services that return 0 even if it's not running :( 01:48:39 cpet what's noise? 01:51:06 normally you have a service and you know of that service why do I need to klnow that all services are running ? 01:52:35 cpet oh well, say you just logged into a server, by doing service -es, you can see the status of all enabled services. 01:53:08 so as a sys admin thats the first thing you do ? 01:53:47 actually the first thing I do is `ps auxd -J 0` :D 01:54:02 I dont login to it is there is no issues 01:54:03 heh 01:54:36 hrm 01:54:55 maybe I should add --libxo support as well to service(8)! 01:54:58 antranigv, im not a fan of making *bsd into a linux distro but look at this for reference 01:56:08 cpet I like copying good things :P actually I got the idea from `systemctl list-unit-files` 01:56:36 openbsd has it in rcctl 01:56:49 antranigv, https://cvsweb.openbsd.org/src/usr.sbin/rcctl/rcctl.sh?rev=1.114&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup 01:56:50 Title: src/usr.sbin/rcctl/rcctl.sh - view - 1.114 01:56:56 may help you ? 01:57:29 basically does for i in bleh/service service status 01:58:27 yeah, the problem here is that... 1) services don't return 1 when not running 2) some services return a whole output, like jls, or a routing table :/ 01:59:00 yeah all the service scripts would need to changed for -s to work 01:59:11 personally dont see a point but if you want to take the time 01:59:24 I *think* I fixed everything in base 01:59:35 yeah what about the 32k ports :) 02:00:18 chris@hp:/usr/ports % find . -name "*.in"|wc -l 02:00:18 5712 02:00:19 :) 02:00:36 time to get to work! 02:00:40 indeed 02:01:15 antranigv, personally I would just do that with the daemons and ignore the rest 02:01:26 antranigv, netif for example doesnt need to be included as its run only once 02:01:43 cpet oh these are just the daemons :D like zfskeys has `status` subcommand 02:01:46 so jls why? 02:01:59 because `service jail status` runs jls 02:02:12 so even if there's no jail running, it returns 0 02:02:46 yeah I can see that this will take a while heh 02:02:58 I still do rc.d/slappy restart 02:03:15 well, that's fixed. zfskeys are fixed. lets see what's next 02:03:22 cpet what's slappy? 02:03:32 made up service name 02:03:42 ohh 02:03:43 lol 02:03:58 change it to sappy its a nirvana song 02:04:53 xD 02:05:26 antranigv, just note just becuase x is in y doesnt mean you need to add y to x 02:06:04 wait, what? 02:06:18 ill let you work that out 02:06:41 it's 6AM and i didn't sleep yet... 1 minute 02:06:45 ohh as in yD 02:06:47 LOL 02:29:26 Does failover mode in FreeBSD Link Aggregation require any support on behalf of the switch? https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/advanced-networking/#network-aggregation I was attempting to setup LACP but am having a lot of issues. Apparently it might not be implemented in hardware on my switch so i'm looking for alternatives 02:29:27 Title: Chapter 33. Advanced Networking | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 02:30:09 or do I just have to configure two ports the same 02:31:03 man lagg ? 02:55:41 sfox: If your switch/router doesn't support LACP, you won't be able to use a standard LAGG configuration on FBSD (or anything else, as far as I know.) 02:56:08 wdym standard LAGG? 02:56:43 LAGG takes 2-3 connection and makes it into one, when one fails it reroute to second 02:56:57 think it came from openbsd ? 02:57:08 or was that carp? 03:01:49 Could|Should PORTS_MODULE be used to always make some ports on buildworld? 03:02:04 s/make/build+install/ 03:02:56 parv, PORTS_MODULES 03:02:57 and yes 03:03:19 for kernel ports it is recommeded in my opinion to rebuild regardless of if its release stable or current 03:04:10 cpet, Right, thanks for the correction. Yes, I was uncertain if ports which do not install a kernel module could fail for lack of the said module 03:04:59 pretty much only applies to drm* and a few set of other ports 03:05:04 such as qemu or virtualbox 03:05:20 but seeing how bhyve works wonders well you dont really need to install those 03:13:38 Yup, along with drm-kmod I would like to update net/wifibox. 03:14:53 not what that is as I removed and snapped my wifi cards from both desktops 03:14:59 sure* 03:17:01 Haha ... why? Could have left them alone (& blacklisted any offending drivers) 03:17:38 they werent supported and I cant have G speeds on gig net 05:25:34 Where would I find the make variable listed that would install packages for dependencies when building a port? 05:26:03 How can I configure freebsd 13 to print kernel boot messages on 0x2F8? 05:26:26 It keeps assigning 0x3F8 as /dev/console despite me explicitly putting this in loader.conf 05:26:44 hint.uart.0.flags="0x0" 05:26:48 hint.uart.1.flags="0x10" 05:27:03 (uart1 is xF8h 05:27:23 (uart1 is 2f8h) 05:28:58 Mentions the variables & steps but not the reference : https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/u8480z/comment/iu5djlb/?context=3 05:28:59 Title: patmaddox comments on Installing port dependencies as packages? 05:29:30 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0 05:29:30 uart0: console (115200,n,8,1) 05:29:30 uart1: <16550 or compatible> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on acpi0 05:29:37 it's not LISTENING to my flags! 05:31:04 Ok. USE_PACKAGE_DEPENDS{,_ONLY} are mentioned in /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk as comment 05:34:33 why would uart1 not become console despite flags 0x10? 05:39:44 sfox: is they keyboard plugged in? 05:54:21 rtprio, yes 05:54:25 a usb one 05:54:34 could that interfere? 05:55:42 yes, it could 05:55:50 have you reviewed https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/serialcomms/#serialconsole-howto ? 05:55:51 Title: Chapter 28. Serial Communications | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 05:56:24 (also, i only used lagg with lacp on a smart switch, roundrobin on a dumb one) 06:00:39 so you want a console yet you have a USB keyboard plugged in ? 06:09:50 I have a usb keyboard plugged in because i'm trying to make sure IPMI SOL is working before i unplug it and close the closet forever 06:11:12 another weird thing is that when things actually work and the kernel spits it's loading messages to the SOL port, " console comconsole failed to initialize" sprays across the bootloader screen 3 times 06:11:16 I've no idea where it comes from 06:12:12 rtprio, it's interesting to note roundrobin works without special switch configuration. I'd assume it'd have mac address flopping issues but i guess not 06:12:51 my switch DOES have LACP but apparently because it's not implemented in hardware and there's only a 1gbit internal interconnect between the switch cpu and the switch ASIC it's worthless 06:13:01 it's a mikrotik CRS125 06:13:20 i don't get much out of lacp either but it's just one of those homelab things 06:13:57 well, at the loader menu you can choose the console when you have a keyboard, but iirc you don't get to pick the com port 06:14:43 you have to set that in the kernel at compile time 06:17:00 oooooh 06:17:02 i see 06:17:16 /boot/device.hints conflicting with /boot/loader.conf hints 06:17:19 hopefully 06:19:34 normally you set the boot loader with the option for console first then keyboard 06:19:38 think its boot -P 06:19:51 so you would add a /boot.config with -P 06:20:10 this way the kernel uses the console regardless and if it fails goes back to keyboard 06:29:58 YES! It's finnaly working properly, without spraying errors 06:30:05 thankyou rtprio and cpet 06:30:34 turns out the IRQs and device addresses for the serial ports were wrong and swapping them around in /boot/device.hints fixed it 06:30:58 also the serial port speed can be set in loader.conf with comconsole_speed you don't have to recompile the kernel 06:31:07 make sure you change the speed 115200 is a lot better than 9600 06:31:13 yes 06:31:25 even though it look nice and retro when it takes 15 secs to scroll a single line 06:31:27 as it boots 06:32:13 only thing weird is that SOL after freebsd boots is chunky and jittery 06:32:28 vs SOL talking to the bootloader and BIOS is nice and smooth 06:32:32 without much delay 06:32:36 what is SOL i see that and I read shit outta luck 06:32:46 serial-over-lan 06:33:08 it's a service provided by the BMC (baseboard management controller) on server motherboards 06:33:34 it provides some out of band management functionality in a standard api (IPMI2.0) 06:33:54 it's a backdoor (the good kind you can actually control) 06:34:08 yeah I know about IPMI 06:34:35 serial is limited to even though its over LAN it would still spit out at 115200 baud which is still slow 06:34:48 basiclly, i'm using that because my BMC's KVM feature requires some java webstart thing to work which is broken 06:34:56 probably only works with java7 or something i don't know 06:35:10 so i'm using sol instead which doesn't require java and i can use GNU freeipmi 06:35:14 my IPKVM worked with some hacks 06:35:19 oh really? 06:35:26 I'd like to know your hacks 06:35:39 just using firefox and the java ext 06:35:40 I'm using an Asrock Rack Xeon-D board 06:35:51 then loading it and doing all the allowing java thinks is cool to do 06:36:10 I installed icedtea-netx but allowed it to run but when it tries to execute it just results in a stacktrace or a blank window 06:36:18 so the jnlp file is broken 06:36:46 i wish it were that simple 06:36:49 main system is windows so the HP system next to it is the BSD/VM/VNC system 06:38:46 guessing you are using one of the few non broken linux distros ? 06:39:24 Devuan 06:39:30 is that non broken? 06:40:00 grr. when I use vim in the serial console whenever i press home it changes the character under my cursor to a capital letter 06:40:03 what's up with that 07:01:20 dont think the console uses a keymap 07:12:32 cool! lagg failover works decently well 07:14:55 sfox, In vim the ~ character toggle case. So the current keymap must have a ~ in the sequence for that key. 07:16:04 You can dump the current keymap using "kbdcontrol". I suggest with -x for hex output "kbdcontrol -xd". 07:20:07 sfox, The ANSI terminal escape sequence for Home is ESC [ 1 ~ so it makes sense that this would eventually toggle case with ~ if that is not recognized as Home. 07:32:28 so i need to replace the terminal type in /etc/ttys with ansi instead of vt100? 07:32:47 or cons25 07:33:54 what is cons25? 07:34:57 what we used before it was changed to xterm 07:35:21 can i set the serial port to xterm? 07:35:29 what that cause a problem? 07:35:39 you can change it to any that is supported in the termfile 07:39:05 vt100 is the basis for the ansi terminal so, no, no need to change it. 07:39:24 I would not think anyway. I actually don't use vim at all so I don't know if vim needs that or not. 07:39:25 dont confuse the term emu and the keymap 07:39:43 You could try it on the fly with "env TERM=ansi vim" and see if that changes things before getting crazy changing other things. 07:40:42 great! 07:40:47 doesnt env show the env ? 07:40:55 setting xterm in /etc/ttys worked 07:41:22 "env" is the simple way to give a command that sets environment variables that works identically for all of csh, tcsh, sh, ksh, bash, zsh. 07:41:25 even though it's a serial port 07:42:03 rwp, interestingly enough the env TERM reads xterm-256color regardless of what's in /etc/ttys 07:42:06 always thoguth env shows setenv sets 07:42:10 Because on the sh side of the family tree one can "TERM=vt100 vim" and set the variable for that one command. But that does not work for csh, tcsh. 07:42:21 env without any arguments dumps the environment. 07:42:57 env is also typically used to invoke the given command on PATH. Often used in "#!/usr/bin/env ruby" and other uses. 07:43:45 sfox, "env TERM reads xterm-256color", huh, what, huh? What "reading" are we talking about there. 07:44:00 nevermind 07:44:14 i think it's time i stopped computering for the night 07:44:18 Okay. Neverminding. 07:44:19 thank you for the help 07:44:43 It's late for me too. But I am upgrading a system, the upgrade went bad due to a disk space problem, and now I am trying to sort things out. 07:44:57 Not a FreeBSD system, unfortunately, or it would be easier to fix. :-( 07:45:41 Got things onto an even keel. But now need to figure out the RoundCube upgrade, which apparently changed things. But that's the last on the broken list now. 07:46:11 Miles to go before I can sleep. No rest for the weary. 07:46:32 screw that ive learned long time ago 11:39:07 \ 11:39:31 good morning everyone 12:29:04 # ifconfig bridge0 ; ifconfig bridge0 create 12:29:04 ifconfig: interface bridge0 does not exist 12:29:04 ifconfig: interface bridge0 already exists 12:29:07 wha? 12:33:51 ghoti: there are 2 things that come to mind 12:34:09 first, does bridge0 exist after executing "ifconfig bridge0" 12:34:32 second, maybe it's renamed. For example, I have cbsd0 interface, which is actually bridge0 renamed to cbsd0 12:37:37 ghoti: to be precise, this is the relevant part of my /etc/rc.conf: https://bsd.to/LHWO 12:37:38 Title: dpaste/LHWO (Plain Text) 14:11:31 The only way to reload the kernel after freebsd-update is to reboot yes ? freebsd-version -kru gives me -p3, -p2, and -p4 in that order. 14:41:59 yes 14:47:37 someone has cpu issue and slowing with thunderbird ? 14:47:51 no 14:48:02 :( 14:48:04 thunderbird does automatically rehash its databases a lot though 14:48:10 so you could be suffering that 14:48:20 yes i allready fixed this one 14:48:35 but this is definitly not that now 14:48:50 all options are inaccessible 16:52:59 I love datacentre-grade networking 16:53:02 rsync 1.34G 100% 276.90MB/s 16:53:17 its so fast it didn't even have time to ramp up to max throughput 16:53:26 ha 16:54:20 time was, I could get a coffee from the cart outside before this was even half way through 16:56:38 a 17:41:24 hello 17:41:34 I am having a problem with my freebsd I am stuck in sddm 17:41:43 is there a way to escape it? 17:41:51 I tried ctrl + alt + f1 17:42:36 it might be the problem I am on virtual box 17:44:25 i thought it was f8 or f7, but i tend to try them all until it works 17:46:15 nothing is working 17:46:23 is there something that can be done? 17:47:41 ctrl-alt-backspace to kill x 17:48:26 or log in to the machine vie ssh (e.g. using your mobile phone) and kill Xorg 17:49:28 I found a way to get in with user session 17:49:39 Should you use the power button, do try to use ACPI shutdown, i.e. press it for a short time, not longer than 4 seconds. The system likely will shut down without damaging the file systems 17:49:39 ctrl alt backspace didn't work 17:53:33 interesting 17:53:41 how do I fix the issue? 17:54:27 It could be a problem with USB mouse or keyboard: happens sometimes. 17:54:49 no but I mean x no longer starts 17:54:55 it's vmware that could be the issue 17:55:04 because the vm ware escape key is ctrl + alt 17:55:47 x no longer starts is a different thing; what's on the screen when you're trying to buttonmash 17:55:48 You were sending the sequence to your lokal Xorg, not that in vmware ;-) 17:56:03 also, isn't there a "send keys" menu in virtualbox? 17:57:57 it's vmware not virtualbox unfortunately 17:58:05 I have virtualbox also but not my freebsd on it 18:00:56 https://termbin.com/ea8i 18:01:01 that's the Xorg log 18:01:22 it suddenly stopped working after an upgrade 18:03:02 are you starting x with `startx` ? 18:04:30 no it automatically does it 18:04:56 probably a good idea to remove it from rc.conf I guess 18:05:15 nothing looks wrong with that logfile; what did you upgrade from/to ? 18:05:36 i susspect the issue might be with your window manager? 18:05:44 so I set sddm_enable="NO" 18:06:01 maybe a small upgrade on vmware maybe an upgrade on freebsd 18:06:28 i don't know anything about sddm 18:06:30 say from 13.1-release-p2 to ..-p3 18:06:58 I'm rebooting now to see what it does 18:08:08 sddm is the password thing in the beginning that I couldn't escape from 18:10:37 and you can't log into sddm? 18:13:06 I can but then it goes to startx 18:13:14 and then I cannot get the x to work so it restarted 18:13:25 I removed and reinstalled it that didn't solve the problem 18:14:28 what do you mean 'it goes to startx'? do you have an .xinitrc file and what's in it? 18:15:35 I mean it attempts to boot x after password entered and then since x fails it returns almost immediately loops back 18:16:11 I am getting these errors warning: could not resolve keysym xf86kbdLcdMenu1 18:19:52 rtprio : xinitrc is found at https://termbin.com/un3f 18:28:28 when I do Xorg -configure I get 18:52:20 think that is know to not work very well 18:52:28 and xorg should just support all the things 18:53:04 what do you mean? 18:53:36 it has seg faulted for years to a point the handbook says not to use it 18:54:09 Video cards, monitors, and input devices are automatically detected and do not require any manual configuration. Do not create xorg.conf or run a -configure step unless automatic configuration fails. 19:06:34 cpet: WHAT? 19:06:43 utterly and completely incoherent 19:07:29 would you like a link to the handbook where I got that from ? 19:08:26 yes, I would 19:08:34 so I know where to submit a patch 19:08:40 https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/x11/ 19:08:42 Title: Chapter 5. The X Window System | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 19:08:42 regarding the segfaulting. 19:08:50 or is that your own synthesis 19:09:27 sorry I dont comprehend such big words can you reword ? 19:11:16 thanks cpet I have been looking there 19:11:29 I am trying to see if lumina is the problem potentially and installing kde 19:12:00 actually lumina is not a bad DE however I prefer KDE or xfce 19:13:24 whatever I liked it 19:13:30 it was working then it stopped 19:13:33 I don't know why 19:14:00 so I will try to see if installing kde resolves it 19:14:11 was the default in PCBSD TrueOS when it was a thing 19:14:16 https://www.x.org/releases/current/doc/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.xhtml#heading16 19:14:17 Title: xorg.conf 19:14:23 otherwise I will go through the details of that 19:14:45 should just work without any of that 19:14:48 yes it wasn't my intention 19:14:56 but then again I was using Xfree86 before Xorg was the norm 19:15:00 It just stopped working 19:15:15 maybe this is the problem? 19:15:48 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=182969 19:15:50 Title: 182969 – x11/xorg: Xorg crashes on -configure 19:16:22 Molnija, read the PR before you just randomly open your mouth with "synthesis" that I dont know what I am talking about 19:16:24 ok? 19:17:36 sixpiece, do you have errors or the typical it worked but doesnt now ? 19:18:07 there was warnings that weren't there before on the symlink xf86 something 19:18:20 they said it wasn't fatal and the error I remember was with xinit 19:18:33 well thats help thank you 19:18:34 heh 19:18:35 connection to x server lost 19:19:15 the arrogance of cpet shall not be infringed 19:19:22 and there was little errors with my declaration of screen, monitor it said for screen no monitor associated no something 19:20:09 really should need to mess with xorg.conf with the exception of nvidia but theres an app for that xorg-nvidia I think it's called 19:22:18 I have had to mess with ih 19:22:31 the closure reason is utter diarrhea. Crashing out is not the intended behavior of Xorg -configure - if it is, then X11 is truly abandoned 19:34:17 I'm just going to wait for the kde to install if there's an issue after than I will be back 19:37:18 Any freebsd compatible recommendations on a decent webcam or some sort of device, phone, dedicated video recorder that can shoot high quality production videos in low light? whats the starting point/lowest budget for this? 19:41:59 hello 19:42:08 let me get out of root I guess 19:43:46 o: 19:44:53 Sircle, might be easier to start by finding out which webcams or recorders suit your lighting and quality requirements, then check whether FreeBSD supports them. 19:45:57 hello back 19:46:02 so yes I got it to work as root 19:46:14 but then if I sign in as a user it flashes the screen out of control and no luck 19:46:27 I didn't mean to make this today's project 19:46:35 I have enough things to do in the next 3 weeks 19:46:43 after I can spend a week on it 19:46:57 would be nice if it work 19:46:59 worked 19:47:54 V_PauAmma_V thanks 19:48:31 any idea why xfce would work fine for root but not for a user? 19:49:16 I have to add them to video group maybe? 20:06:24 what a headache 20:06:34 this has taken way longer than I wanted it to 20:15:45 it seriously shouldn't be this complicated 20:20:19 hello it worked 20:20:29 not fully but somewhat it's working 20:20:59 it's got bugs like I can log in as kiwichap but I can't login as sixpiece with the sddm not sure why 20:29:48 is there any way to break out of the sddm? 20:29:52 with vmware? 20:30:19 same way you break from any other X11 DM; i.e. send C-M-Fn 20:30:25 where n is a number 20:30:33 what is M? 20:30:43 C is CTRL? 20:31:09 C is CTRL? what is M? 20:31:16 M is Alt 20:31:44 but the problem is that with VM ware its ctrl and alt is to escape 20:31:55 M is Meta which on most keyboards maps to Alt. Technically would be Esc as well. 20:32:29 I found it 20:32:44 it's like CTRL + ALT + spacebar but then just release space bar 20:32:52 hm 20:33:06 VMWare should allow you to change to a differentkey 20:33:34 they don't virtualbox does though 20:34:05 damnit 20:43:13 it can be configured here on vmware workstation 20:43:50 is there a way to see what is causing gpart delete (deleting one partition) to fail with "Device busy" ? 20:45:19 normally doesnt support what your doing or youre cd'ed into the device or mounted 20:46:21 I am trying to upgrade to workstation 17 maybe this is the problem that disrupted my harmonious happy freebsd 20:46:27 like the small upgrade I made 20:46:43 I just did the upgrade going to restart the computer now 20:46:57 what the hell is workstation 17 20:47:22 vmware :( 20:55:46 is there any way I can get out of this? 20:56:02 /part ? 20:56:29 I am in xfce now as non root 20:56:35 but I want to be able to get to root 20:56:46 logout and login as user ? 20:56:52 fire up a terminal and su - ? 20:57:06 I tried that it says sorry 20:57:10 open a term and sudo.su to root 20:57:20 press ctrl alt f2 and login to root in console 20:57:24 not found 20:57:33 remove the . 20:57:38 I cannot type f2 because vmware regular doesn't allow it 20:58:06 I dont know I dont run OS in vm's 20:58:08 password doesn't work 20:58:12 even though it does 20:58:29 there's no way to get out ? lol 20:58:36 in the booting stage? 20:59:02 maybe there's a fake keyboard 20:59:34 take your phone out and start googling for vmware shortcuts ? 20:59:55 I figured it out lol 20:59:58 also this isnt #vmware ;/ 21:00:16 cause you know we have to stay on topic 21:00:16 I'm not sure yet but there's a keyboard shortcuts on xfce and I changed it to alt and escape 21:00:16 good god. 21:00:44 guess he didint add hios user to wheel 21:00:59 probably not 21:01:17 it just killed the chat.. 21:01:46 what? :/ 21:02:39 kiwichap: are you able to escape a C-M-F3 into the VM and get a root or toor shell from which to add your user to wheel? 21:02:49 no 21:03:43 but I can restart but I guess there's no way to stop that part of the boot process? 21:04:29 honestly dont know what the issue is 21:04:49 lol 21:05:05 I want to be able to use as root as sudo create users as a username 21:05:18 I don't want to be like not able to ever install a program here 21:05:47 use a virtual keyboard and press ctrl alt f2 21:05:53 at the prompt loing as root 21:05:58 and add yourself to wheel 21:06:06 this way you can open a term and su as root 21:06:12 then you can install sudo or doas 21:06:40 and possibly dont run vmware in full screen without reading up on short cuts 21:07:14 or do what I do and buy 1 x SSD per OS installed 21:09:08 I guess just reinstall it on virtualbox? 21:09:12 or like hyperv 21:09:20 and delete this one? 21:09:28 it was a lot of effort getting the sound working ,e tc.. 21:09:37