00:01:30 ok seems this is the issue: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/gpt-table-corrupt.52102/ 00:01:31 Title: ZFS - GPT table corrupt | The FreeBSD Forums 00:17:58 koobs: When is lme usually active? 00:19:11 jb1277976: not sure of timezone 00:38:31 koobs: Can't I just find a Current release and it work or does it have to be specific? 00:39:18 current is a development branch, so no release, but there are snapshots 00:39:44 https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots 00:39:46 Title: Index of /ftp/snapshots/ 00:39:48 jb1277976: ^ 00:40:06 pick your architecture, then 14.0-CURRENT at teh next step 00:40:23 https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/14.0/ 00:40:24 Title: Index of /ftp/snapshots/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/14.0/ 00:40:28 those are the iso images for amd64/current 00:40:58 Sweet 00:41:37 koobs: That's for nomadbsd or FreeBSD? 00:41:44 freebsd 00:50:18 Arm64/Aarch64 is Tier One now, right ? Or did I dream that ? 00:51:17 Seems to be working pretty good on my D2000 00:51:54 No internal nic, but that seems to be lost anyhow 00:54:32 https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ Tier 1 on 13.x and (as planned) 14.x, still tier 2 on 12.x. 00:54:34 Title: Platforms | The FreeBSD Project 00:54:59 Great, thanks, using 13.1 release 00:55:12 +-p2 00:55:25 so far so good 00:55:50 said the man who jumped from the 13'th floor when he got to the 2'nd 00:57:05 Anything I should install if I went with the default ZFS ? 00:57:37 (Arm64 nvme not hw raid) 00:58:19 Or anything I really should install asap or something before the ZFS crashes ? 00:59:28 How valuable is your data? 01:02:51 Well, I already lost 4 TB in the past 01:03:21 So far I have nothing on it that I can't stand to lose 01:03:56 And this time no hardware raid involved :) 01:06:14 the device does have a built in NIC etc, also supports up to 64 GB ram 01:06:31 just wicked hardware 01:06:46 UEFI works ice though 01:06:50 nice 02:05:29 koobs: So stable FreeBSD has the same iwlwifi drivers as a nomad ss current right? 02:37:26 w00t freebsd has WiFi wimilar to anything ? 03:26:09 Hey all, with regard to ZFS (and other raid systems) do SSDs suffer from error recovery control issues like HDDs? 03:28:54 The general advice for HDDs seems to be stick to WD red pros or seagate ironwolfs, but what about SSDs? If you used cosumer SSDs in ZFS would there be any issues other than slower performance than enterprise SSDs? 03:31:14 i use whatever I can get so my system has a mix of seagate sandisk samsung 03:32:55 ssd's and HDD work differently so back in the day we had a program called badblocks which would tag bad blocks as bad and the OS wouldnt use them for SSD's this isn't the case as they work simil;ar to USB thumb drives 03:48:05 https://www.guru99.com/ssd-vs-hdd.html 03:48:06 Title: SSD vs HDD: What is the Difference Between SSD and HDD 03:59:21 If the SSD is a high density QLC (which is slow) but has a faster smaller cache SLC and your write workload exceeds the SLC cache size then SSDs can be a problem that is unseen with previous spinning drives. 03:59:50 What might happen is that initially after a boot everything is fast. And then after the SLC cache fills then the SSD slows down because it has to run at QLC speeds. 04:00:18 Interesting 04:00:23 internal vs external ? 04:00:38 But that's mostly a concern with large very busy NAS servers. If you are talking about your desktop then it is almost impossible for you to generate enough data to be a problem. 04:00:45 bench a SSD vs a HHD tell me which is faster regardless 04:01:16 there is a reason why WD makes drives specifically for x y z 04:01:30 cpet, Yes. Do benchmark it. But make sure you write enough data to blow through the cache if it has one. 04:01:55 im watching youtubes and drinking, would would I bench my SSD's heh ? 04:02:03 Definitely for HDDs there is a reason to buy the NAS branded ones, but this is the first reason I've seen for an SSD 04:02:24 Again if this is just your own desktop or your own house NAS then it would be hard to imagine this being a problem. 04:02:49 and I doubt they wouldf be using SSD's 04:02:58 But in an engineering lab or a university or similar then one might have a problem there. 04:03:02 they would be using some sort of SCSI 04:03:06 I'm considering SSDs for a home nas 04:03:20 i would invest in NVE 04:03:24 Then I think you won't have a problem. 04:03:29 but I dont think they make NAS enclosures for NVE 04:04:38 apparently there's a U.2 connector for that use case 04:05:27 whats the point then youll be using a SATA controller vs the PCIX 04:05:50 already have the SATA controller, will not buy more hardware 04:06:15 my backup plan is a 256GB ext USB drive 04:07:39 I still see 2.5 inch spinning drives as most common where I work but I don't know what the BIG IRON places like Amazon do where they have SSDs by the thousands. 04:08:16 its cloud if one system dies another should take its place 04:08:43 but hearing how they treat there employees I stay away from amazon 04:09:40 That's where I'm at now, I have an 8-bay 2.5" cage. Second hand SAS drives are about the same price point for 1TB SSDs.... so *shrug* 04:10:18 some people back up all the things not just the crucial things 04:14:03 I can't find the email discussion where someone had a project, spent $10k on SSDs in a spinning drive to SSD upgrade project. And found that things had the problem I described. 04:14:18 Things were unable to keep up with the "upgraded" system. That's where I learned of it myself. 04:14:21 And they were debating if they spent another US$10k and doubled their SSD pool if that would then avoid the cache blow through problem by doubling the cache. 04:14:40 you goto the store and get a HD specific for x y z how hard is it ? 04:14:42 I was glad it was them making that decision and not me! That would be a stressful situation. Not being sure how much would be needed and having a problem already. 04:15:43 I can just imagine that they might double their project budget spending US20k and then still finding it wasn't enough. 04:41:54 Dam, netbsd didn't find my WiFi card. 04:42:26 easiest is you start man if_* and buying one thats supported 04:44:39 cpet: To much work don't you think? 04:45:00 I did it 04:45:11 Life is too short to use non-free and unsupported WiFi adaptors. 04:45:19 However, which adaptor are you fighting with? 04:46:44 my laptop had a lot of blacklisted mPXI cards so buying a new one was hard 04:52:32 jb1277976, It's somewhat of a bootstrapping problem to get to the end result but if you have a WiFi adaptor supported in Linux but not FreeBSD then the wifibox work-in-progress drives it. I have heard good results from people doing it that way. 04:53:54 rwp: AX201 04:54:45 rwp: So use ethernet or usb tether to install thrn use wifi box to get WiFi working ? 04:55:06 iwlwifi doesn't find it ? 04:55:29 its still in dev so you would need a kldload if_iwlwifi 04:55:36 should load it 04:57:14 jb1277976, Yes. That's the strategy. I don't have a handy URL for wifibox though. Sorry. I don't need to use it myself. 04:58:09 Got it 04:59:13 rwp: I read somewhere that stable freebsd had my card supported iwlwifi 04:59:43 Then it should work. And generally the Intel WiFi works very well. 05:02:24 I'm gonna get stable iso. Even ur ask to setup the network i will see if my card is detected. If not I will do usb tethering 05:02:43 I hope it recognizes iPhones πŸ˜… 08:43:41 Is there a way to tell (via dmidecode or some other tool) whether I'm using E5-2670 or E5-2670v2 CPUs? 08:44:47 ghoti: try `grep CPU /var/run/dmesg.boot` 08:45:08 or `sysctl hw.model` 08:54:03 I am using a wireless USB keyboard and have configured a key-binding to change keyboard layout in OpenBox. If I remove the transmitter/receiver from the USB port, the keybinding does not work anymore. How could I solve this? 09:48:02 kwiat, is that definitely where I'd see it? I'm confirming because I *thought* I had v2 CPUs, but I'm not seeing v2 as part of the model name. 09:48:25 hw.model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz 09:48:56 ghoti: I don't know "better" place to check. 09:49:23 hw.model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v3 @ 3.50GHz 09:49:35 this is from one of my machines 09:49:48 so apparently you don't have v2 CPU :-) 09:50:02 Righto. Thank you. :) 15:19:59 does anyone have a good recommendation for a dhcp server, preferably one that can run in a jail without vnet? 15:20:21 I was using ISC up to now 15:21:35 Can you not run ISC in a jail ? 15:21:54 you can, but the project is ending 15:22:00 EoL in december I think 15:25:01 They seem to be working on https://www.isc.org/kea/ as a replacement 15:25:03 Title: Kea DHCP - ISC 15:32:23 yes, but I heard the configuration is different and it's more heavyweight 15:32:43 I was considering moving to net/dhcpd, the port of openbsd dhcp server 15:43:20 FreeBSD stable found my WiFi card AX201 will be installing it tomorrow 😎 15:49:23 Anyone know a way to mount/access a disk image with track/sector layout that differs throughout the image? 16:36:43 Test 16:37:25 works 16:37:30 Test failed, please try again 16:37:31 dammit 16:37:38 too slow 16:38:10 Test failed, please panic. 16:38:38 Ltning: is that even supported for disks? 16:38:52 debdrup, good one 16:45:40 Do Linux apps like qemu and stuff run on freebsd? 16:48:00 jb1277976: many programs – like qemu – which are available for linuxes are also available for freebsd so they are not strictly speaking linux apps 16:50:04 (most of important applications for linuxes are also available for freebsd) 16:53:31 Or have an alternative that does (bhyve in this case) 17:39:29 la_mettrie: Thanks 17:56:12 So I got some documents in linux right some here and there. Some in qemu windows and another os. Why should I switch to freebsd? I've always wanted a bad for my daily driver but it has never supported my WiFi hardware. Just want to know why I should choose a bad over linux? 18:07:53 we don't care if you do; try it and think for yourself 18:08:03 this is #freebsd not #changemymind 19:08:55 You shouldn't choose a bad, you should choose a good :) 19:44:11 I have created a VM of fbsd 13 based on its qcow2 disk image. 19:44:36 I need to exted the rootfs as there is no free space. How do you guys do that? 19:45:03 Add enaother disk + mount it to a special directory? Say /var? 19:45:28 Or exted the existing dsk where rootfs is on? 20:01:47 cent: you can grow UFS 20:05:39 cent: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/disks/#disks-growing 20:05:40 Title: Chapter 18. Storage | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 20:09:51 Remilia, I suceeded to crea a new UFS at vtbd1p1 20:10:05 Now I need to add this FS to the rootf 20:10:15 rootfs 20:11:23 Is RDP, say via "xrdp", the only way currently to interact with the GUI launched in a bhyve instance? 20:11:49 cent: you cannot 'add' an existing filesystem to the root filesystem, you can only mount it somewhere 20:12:03 you could have extended the virtual disk and then grown the root filesystem 20:13:35 Remilia, yes that is what I thought as that does NOT behave as an LVM or so. 20:15:20 technically you could have made a GEOM stripe but why would you do this when you can grow a virtual disk instead 20:28:28 Remilia, perfect. I got it done by resizing the virtual disk. But I was wondering if FBSD could handle adding an extra disk to the disk/part where the rootfs is. 20:28:56 Maybe by having the rootfs as ZFS instead of UFS. 21:00:12 rtprio: Thanks 😊 22:28:19 jb1277976: changes are merged, but later than current, and at a less frequent commit rate 22:28:37 jb1277976: current is going to be the best bet, so you can test the latest code, and provide feedback 22:46:49 oh great thank you 22:47:43 ... 22:52:38 HI, I am not sure but I feel as my hardware is not supported I get message about amdgpu in dmesg and xorg doesn't work. https://pastebin.com/5yUBtQFu 22:52:39 Title: Copyright (c) 1992-2021 The FreeBSD Project.Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 19 - Pastebin.com 22:53:29 "KLD amdgpu.ko: depends on kernel - not available or version mismatch" 22:54:40 Or did I made a mistake with port tree ? 22:55:32 Midjak: in what manner was drm-kmod installed? ports or packages? 22:55:44 port 22:55:59 has there been a recent freebsd base version update/upgrade? 22:56:30 It's a fresh install. 22:57:18 Midjak: pkg version -v output ? 22:57:23 during the process it was proposed to me to install port tree. But I remove it and made a git clone. 23:00:11 https://pastebin.com/tLsTJTX1 23:00:12 Title: adwaita-icon-theme-40.1.1 = up-to-date with portappres-1.0.5 - Pastebin.com 23:00:46 Midjak: and /boot/loader.conf ? 23:01:16 The checksum for base.txt doesn't not match it may have been corrupted 23:01:20 just kern.vty=vt 23:01:23 Any ideas how to fix? 23:01:47 txz* 23:03:41 Had the same when I tried to install from a 14 iso. Ended up installing from a 13.1 iso then upgraded post install . i hope there is a better way. 23:03:57 I will try another usb 23:03:58 Midjak: Midjak packages seem fine (latest versions), not sure what might be up 23:04:16 Midjak: Midjak particularly if you built it from source 23:04:44 sereg: it should do a checksum before it wipers you hdd ... 23:04:44 What can I do to go forward ? 23:04:47 Midjak: ls -la /boot/modules/amd*.ko ? 23:05:48 Midjak: https://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-portsβŠ™fo/msg84520.html looks similar 23:05:49 Title: Re: amdgpu on Ryzen 4700 w. Vega10 Renoir Graphics 23:05:50 I installed from a 14 snapshot (October 14) memstick a few days ago and had no problem. 23:06:22 Midjak: only thing i can think of is /usr/src is not the same as installed version 23:06:30 jb1277976_, that caught me off guard too .. i ended up flashing a microSD card on an android device then putting it in a usb adapter, 23:07:11 yes I didn't find cezane too (it's the name of my cpu) 23:07:49 https://pastebin.com/GEY1HvhL 23:07:50 Title: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7169528 Oct 20 11:25 /boot/modules/amdgpu.ko-r-xr-x - Pastebin.com 23:07:59 Midjak: you may want to a) freebsd-update to the latest 13.1p* level then b) git clone releng/13.1 (make sure you get the right branch) then c) rebuilt port 23:08:49 ok I will do that tomorrow. Thank you koobs 23:09:13 Midjak: once you isolate cause of unsupported version (version mismatch), you may want to update to CURRENT so you can use latest drm code 23:09:17 Midjak: let us know how it goes 23:09:46 yes I will do 23:27:08 koobs: I think stable is the only release that has the driver for my card? 23:27:51 I can try Current 23:46:58 freebsd = freebird 23:47:21 I chose my WiFi network now freebsd current panicked and im st a db> shell 23:47:26 Any ideas? 23:49:35 natewrench: that looks like assignment? 23:50:08 no i was listening to lynyrd's freebird 23:54:27 jb1277976_: latest amd code is via drm-kmod upstream repo, which supports releases/current 23:54:41 jb1277976_: with current supporting later versions of the drm code