00:18:21 <AmyMalik> I know that on Linux, a dir that is executable but not readable is accessible if you know a filename therewithin. The same behavior appears to apply on FreeBSD as I just tested it - is this standard behavior or do some UNIXes not do this?
00:20:39 <mason> It's how POSIX permissions work.
00:21:01 <mason> 'r' lets you read a directory, but you don't need to do that if you know what's in it
03:02:20 <V_PauAmma_V> AmyMalik, I'm pretty sure this is specified by Posix.
03:02:48 <V_PauAmma_V> (Which mason already said.)
03:02:50 <AmyMalik> thanks
10:06:00 <Demosthenex> yuripv: net-snmp for the snmpwalk
12:50:23 <ccx> pkg install seems to error out for me:
12:50:29 <ccx> Creating user 'messagebus' with uid '556'.
12:50:32 <ccx> pw: user 'messagebus' disappeared during update
12:50:33 <ccx> pkg: PRE-INSTALL script failed
12:50:54 <ccx> The user is present in /etc/passwd, no clue what it's complaining about
12:51:34 <ccx> (I don't really think the package I want needs to pull in dbus as a dependency, but that's another matter)
12:57:25 <ccx> root@daruma ~ ▶ grep '^messagebus:' /etc/passwd
12:57:28 <ccx> messagebus:*:556:556:D-BUS Daemon User:/nonexistent:/usr/sbin/nologin
12:57:30 <ccx> root@daruma ~ ▶ pw user show messagebus
12:57:32 <ccx> pw: no such user `messagebus'
12:57:34 <ccx> This doesn't seem right
13:08:20 <meena> do wlan devices not show their … "parent" device?
13:08:47 <meena> ccx: maybe you're missing a db update
13:08:56 <meena> ccx: did something go wrong during the pkg install?
13:09:07 <meena> oh, it's right there, PRE-INSTALL script failed
13:10:52 <ccx> Probably. Is there an easy way to inspect/check the db file?
13:13:04 <meena> ccx: it's sqlite
13:13:27 <meena> I'm reading https://codeberg.org/FreeBSD/freebsd-ports/src/branch/main/devel/dbus/Makefile trying to figure out where it's failing
13:13:31 <VimDiesel> Title: freebsd-ports/Makefile at main - freebsd-ports - Codeberg.org
13:15:17 <meena> the only remarkable thing about the port is the PORTEPOCH= 1
13:15:26 <meena> which means at one point, the version was downgraded
13:17:40 <ccx> meena: Are you sure it's that and not db(3) - as in Berkeley DB?
13:18:21 <meena> ccx: are we talking about pkg's database? Then, Yes, I'm certain.
13:19:23 <ccx> Ah, I was talking of pwd_mkdb which I assume is in play here
13:34:54 <meena> ccx: ah, yes, sorry
13:35:04 <meena> ccx: but you should be able to just open that with vipw
13:36:17 <ccx> meena: Manually issuing `/usr/sbin/pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd` seems to have fix things.
13:36:35 <meena> ccx: with the messagebus user added, too?
13:37:54 <PredatorONormies> Hi. Why does MPV pause after the videos ends if MPV has LOOP or SHUFFLE turned on?
13:38:11 <PredatorONormies> Is it a bug or some setting? does this belong in #freebsd-social
13:39:07 <meena> PredatorONormies: the pause should be very minimal, IIRC, the loop setting takes a pause time
13:39:23 <ccx> meena: Yeah, it was added to the plaintext files all right but somehow didn't propagate to the db? Though running `strings /etc/pwd.db | grep messagebus` shown that it there.
13:39:40 <PredatorONormies> meena I meant pause as a pause, no a timeout paues
13:43:04 <PredatorONormies> And it does not start playing again until I press the left arrow key aka to go backwards
13:43:33 <PredatorONormies> if I press the O letter on keyboard to show OSD (or what it's called) - before the current video time there is a clock shown
13:43:39 <PredatorONormies> a clock icon shown*
13:43:47 <PredatorONormies> Want verbose or something?
13:44:24 <shiroyasha> PredatorONormies: Something like that has been happening to me for like a year or more, but I didn't find anything on internet nor do I know how to debug that.
13:44:40 <shiroyasha> And passing `--aid=no` to remove audio seems to fix it, but of course there's no audio.
13:46:09 <PredatorONormies> Yeah
13:46:16 <PredatorONormies> So something related to audio?
13:47:41 <shiroyasha> No idea, but it also happens when loading the next file, even if there's no shuffle.
13:48:17 <shiroyasha> I know because I have loaded directories of anime and this happened when loading next episode too.
13:48:28 * shiroyasha shrugs
13:50:14 <PredatorONormies> well.. yeah for example mpv *mp4
13:50:40 <PredatorONormies> oh, my, you have the same problem -- having to manually start each anime episode? lol
13:52:41 <ccx> Clock usually means it's stuck loading next piece of source data. But it's quite possible it could be something else too.
13:53:36 <ccx> Does it happen with all files? Could be malformed index or something if it's only a few.
13:53:40 <PredatorONormies> Yeah - hence I asked if verbose output could be helpful
13:53:43 <PredatorONormies> yes
13:53:47 <PredatorONormies> all
13:54:06 <PredatorONormies> would be worse if it's random or something, no? lol
14:00:18 <shiroyasha> Wait I forgot. I think it's only with video+audio, because I think there wasn't any problems with only audio.
14:00:40 <PredatorONormies> oh
14:00:45 <PredatorONormies> You might be correct
14:01:04 <PredatorONormies> Some sort of syncronisation system then?
15:35:12 <Midjak> Hi, I am trying to n install freebsd on new amd64 hardware. I have 2 disks (one SSD one HDD). I am doing that from usb stick. (amd64-memstick. in graphical install I got an "unknown error" when I try to perfomr the install on both disks. Is there a way to debug this error ?
15:37:30 <PredatorONormies> Always a bad thing when the error itself is unknown
15:37:35 <PredatorONormies> Reminds me of Windows
15:38:08 <Midjak> yes indeed ...
15:38:36 <Midjak> I didn't check the image I am doing that
15:41:09 <Midjak> my configuration is an AMD64 5600G with 128G of RAM. the disk had an old freebsd install. maybe that is the cause
15:41:53 <PredatorONormies> could be.. but I am surprised that there is an error handler in something like FreeBSD
15:42:15 <PredatorONormies> Usually software written in C handles exit codes quite well (aka errors)
15:42:37 <Midjak> an error handler ?
15:42:44 <PredatorONormies> But this just seems like some stupid brainless exception handler.. not that I've looked at installer/FreeBSD code
15:42:58 <PredatorONormies> for examply - try excepts blocks in Python - that's an error handler
15:43:02 <PredatorONormies> exception handler
15:43:04 <PredatorONormies> same thing I think
15:43:06 <Midjak> ok yes
15:43:22 <Midjak> the screen seems new...
15:44:21 <Midjak> in the past it was a deep blue now it's a clear blue. Is there a new installer ?
15:46:31 <PredatorONormies> No idea, the latest (I think) FreeBSD is my 1st
15:49:11 <Midjak> it seems the checksum isn't right
15:49:24 <Midjak> I am trying new download
15:52:08 <Midjak> no image is ok in fact :-/
15:55:52 <Midjak> with UFS  it seems to work
16:10:58 <PredatorONormies> 0.o
16:13:28 <Midjak> yes... install has been completed with UFS right now.
16:13:54 <Midjak> Maybe my old disks was UFS. I don't know
16:50:24 <PredatorONormies> :/
16:50:29 <PredatorONormies> Try OpenBSD? XD
17:27:27 <iio7> I am running FreeBSD on ZFS zroot, and all is fine in that regard. Then I have attached two other drives that is a ZFS mirror pool. Everytime I reboot the machine, I have to export the pool, because the dataset directories are empty, then import the pool manually and then it works. How can I troubleshoot why the pool doesn't get imported and mounted correctly at boot?
17:37:13 <iio7> When I do a "zdb -CU /boot/zfs/zpool.cache" I can see that only the zroot is located in the cache.
17:37:35 <iio7> I guess that's why the other pool doesn't get auto imported.
17:42:59 <yuripv> if you have to *export* it, it means it was imported, right? may be the fs you are looking for was not mounted?
17:44:03 <yuripv> does it have the mountpoint property set to noauto or legacy?
17:45:20 <yuripv> (and do you have zfs_enable="YES" in rc.conf?)
17:45:53 <iio7> Yes, zfs_enabled="YES" is in rc.conf.
17:46:19 <iio7> I have to export because the datasets are just empty directories, and only when I export and then import, the data is there.
17:46:26 <iio7> i.e. files.
17:47:00 <yuripv> enabled or enable? there's a difference :)
17:47:18 <V_PauAmma_V> That should be "enable", not "enabled", in case the typo was also in your ... beat me to it.
17:47:23 <iio7> sorry, typo, it's enable and zroot is working.
17:48:39 <iio7> Can it be because the mountpoint of the dataset is in a users home directory? The mountpoint is /home/foo/data, maybe it needs to be /usr/home/foo/data for it to work during boot?
18:25:48 <Midjak> Is it possible to parallelize compilation when building port ?
18:30:10 <sereg> you can try make -jx but it doesn't work for many ports
18:30:22 <vhns> Hi all. I'm currently trying to figure out where x11-themes/wallpapers-freebsd-kde pulls the files from. I see that in MASTER_SITES= it has the value LOCAL/avilla. But where is such path?
18:31:53 <Midjak> thanks sereg. I didn't think it was via make (I thought there was a configuration somewhere, since I will have always the same number of cpu)
18:36:29 <sereg> perhaps there is somewhere but I do not know
18:38:16 <Midjak> I won't venture it
18:41:49 <Midjak> Chapter 6 of Porter's manual scared me.
18:56:40 <Midjak> Just realized that git was the versioning manager used in port tree. But I have an issue, I have installed port during the system install process and it is not a git repo. Can I remove /usr/ports without risk ?
18:57:26 <yuripv> MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER (documented in bsd.ports.mk)
18:58:19 <yuripv> err, bsd.port.mk, and yes, you can remove /usr/ports
18:58:23 <Midjak> thanks but I didn't ready to take the risk.
18:58:28 <Midjak> cool
18:59:19 <yuripv> ports building should be already parallelized unless explicitly disabled in port's Makefile
18:59:54 <Midjak> ah ok
19:01:14 <Midjak> is git the only way to upgrade port tree. I remember sometime ago there was cvs. (I am not a nostalgic of this tool, that's said)
19:02:50 <Midjak> yuripv, so the system determine the number of parallel jobs based on cpu number, right ?
19:06:48 <yuripv> Midjak: yes, https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports/blob/77c74c71009345aad77618eb6adad77589258038/Mk/bsd.port.mk#L2049 (if not overriden by MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER)
19:06:50 <VimDiesel> Title: freebsd-ports/bsd.port.mk at 77c74c71009345aad77618eb6adad77589258038 · freebsd/freebsd-ports · GitHub
19:07:53 <Midjak> oh great thank you
20:28:27 <jb1277976> Hello, i would like to try out freebsd but it seems my wifi card hasn't been supoprted for sometime. this is the latest i could find https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=244261 my wifi card is AX201 can anyone verify this or something on the backend that i don't see
20:28:29 <VimDiesel> Title: 244261 – Add support for Intel AX200 (iwx) wireless devices
20:33:48 <parv> Is that an Intel WiFi card? It is "supported" via iwlwifi driver project on stable/13 & CURRENT
20:34:11 <idwer> ax20*? you're better off with linux, which is where the driver gets it code from anywan
20:34:14 <idwer> anyway*
20:35:04 <parv> Refer to https://wiki.freebsd.org/WiFi/Iwlwifi
20:35:06 <VimDiesel> Title: WiFi/Iwlwifi - FreeBSD Wiki
20:38:18 <parv> Alternatively there is net/wifibox port which uses a Linux VM for the iwlwifi driver. I use it on Framework laptop that has Intel AX210 card: https://github.com/pgj/freebsd-wifibox-port
20:38:19 <VimDiesel> Title: GitHub - pgj/freebsd-wifibox-port: FreeBSD port for Wifibox
20:52:28 <jb1277976> idwer: I'm on Linux already
20:54:56 <jb1277976> parv: This net/wifibox is it in the installer with FreeBSD?
20:55:03 <wez> Aren't we all, Linux is everywhere! on TVs, phones, routers, there's no escaping it.
20:55:22 <koobs> morn
20:55:30 <wez> Mornin'
20:55:34 <koobs> wez: o/~
20:55:58 <koobs> jb1277976: its a port/package
20:56:25 <wez> koobs: You're heiling Hitler?
20:56:32 <koobs> wez: sorry what?
20:57:03 <koobs> wez: worth noting that people could misunderstand your 'joke'
20:57:04 <wez> koobs: you didn't include the ascii emoji's shoulder
20:57:18 <koobs> wez: that assumes its not underarm stinky
20:57:33 <wez> .o/~
20:57:46 <wez> that has the shoulder
20:57:56 <jb1277976> koobs: That means I have to get through the install first then install the port/binary?
20:58:24 <koobs> jb1277976: there's affectively no difference, in the installer would pkg install a package
20:58:34 <koobs> jb1277976: so just pkg install once youre done with the install
20:58:39 <wez> koobs: worthy note? you wrote the ascii text and that's what it look like, no joke about it
20:59:30 <jb1277976> Ok, gotta find a Ethernet
20:59:35 <wez> careful with ascii emoji's that have a single arm raised with no indication of the direction being faced. that's why you add in the shoulder.
21:12:03 <V_PauAmma_V> Hmm. All this time I took it as a representation of a note, the way I use it.
21:16:04 <jb1277976> Please tell me parv isn't a bot?
21:42:56 <rwp> That wave was clearly the left arm up anyway. :-)  Left arm: o/  Right arm: \o  Both arms: \o/
21:44:29 <jb1277976> Only one way to find out. gonna get stable and do the install. i know before it formats the disk it will ask me to setup my wifi
22:08:38 <koobs>  jb1277976 yu can nomadbsd from a usb stick if youd like too
22:11:59 <jb1277976> koobs: Nomadbsd looks nice. looking at the screenshots
22:15:11 <jb1277976> koobs: I dont think it supports ax201 iwlwifi
22:15:22 <koobs> ah, yes youll want current for that
22:15:56 <koobs> ask lme (lars, nomadbsd author) (on #bhyve and #poudriere channels here on libera) for a CURRENT snapshot of NomadBSD :)
22:15:59 <koobs> jb1277976: ^
22:17:42 <jb1277976> Thanks going there now
23:29:37 <endrift> Not sure who to report this to, but the plist search on Freshports is broken
23:30:42 <endrift>  Parse error: syntax error, unexpected identifier "count", expecting "," or ";" in /usr/local/www/freshports/classes/ports_by_pkg_plist.php on line 62
23:32:38 <endrift> Ah there's a github
23:51:04 <adonis> on a zfs array I've seen errors like this: da0: corrupt or invalid GPT detected
23:51:18 <adonis> from geom.. but the pool still works..
23:52:22 <adonis> should those be fixed?