02:56:35 for some reason I don't have the device node /dev/nvd1p1, I have /dev/nvd0p1 which is the EFI partition on my first disk, but not the one on my second disk, or any partition devices for my second disk 02:56:39 why would that happen 03:46:07 i switched my lan tld to .lan. here's my unbound config https://termbin.com/p2h1 any way to make it even better!? 04:25:33 Anyone using wasmer-2.3.0 on FreeBSD 13.1? 04:31:22 what is it? 04:33:25 polyex: It's a vm for webassembly. 07:33:22 so if I pass --modules=nativedisk to grub-install I can chainload the freebsd efi loader from another disk and boot it from my grub menu \o/ 08:41:30 hi 08:42:05 is video playback possible in bare console without xorg? 08:42:48 it did work for me on opensuse, but i'm having some issues on freebsd, for some reason it can't find a device for the output 08:43:11 it works fine if i startx 08:44:25 matter a fact, i can't do anything when it comes to video, the display is not set and i'm not sure what exactly to export 08:52:46 Moebius: yes, playing back video on the framebuffer is possible while at the console, but I've only managed it with multimedia/mpv and then only as a stunt to show that it's possible. 08:53:05 yes, that's exactly what i'm trying to use 08:53:08 Also, FreeBSD isn't Linux, so comparing it to OpenSUSE won't make any difference :) 08:53:55 If memory serves, the correct invocation I landed on was inspired by something I read in the ports VCS log, so start looking there. 08:54:17 alright, thanks 08:57:45 Ah, here we go. In /usr/ports, do: git log --grep console multimedia/mpv 09:01:22 another thing, i'm not sure my gpu meets the minimum requirement for this, some people say you need Intel HD whereas this is a really old laptop with Intel GMA 950 09:03:44 Try it. 09:04:19 fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git 09:05:15 Then check out the ports tree: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/ports/#ports-using-installation-methods 09:05:16 Title: Chapter 4. Installing Applications: Packages and Ports | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 09:05:41 Even if I didn't have chemobrain and struggled to remember what happened yesterday, I'm not sure I'd remember which generations do what, graphics wise, since they're entirely proprietary and Intel doesn't publish a changelog. ;) 09:06:54 you know, i think i will just use xorg... there's more than one reason for it, like i need to turn off the screen and such as i'm planning to use it as my media server basically.. and xset won't work without it anyway 09:07:44 i don't need a full desktop environment, i'm a little short on ram here, just a bare minimum to do these things comfortably 09:08:03 With all due respect possible, I think that's for the best - I don't think someone who doesn't know what ports are (ie. doesn't have a ports tree via git) would be the most advanced user (yet), and as such it's probably not the best to try and do advanced things like running purely on console. 09:08:23 You could try wayland, it uses a lot less memory in my experience. 09:10:34 Here's a snip from ps: debdrup 2146 0.4 1.3 455772 207952 v8 S+ 24Sep22 769:02.76 | `-- sway --config /usr/home/debdrup/.config/sway/config.docked 09:10:54 that's interesting, thanks 09:10:54 If I remember my columns right, that puts the resident set size at around 200kB memory. 09:11:18 The handbook has a chapter on wayland too: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/x11/#x-wayland 09:11:19 Title: Chapter 5. The X Window System | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 09:12:13 There's plenty of time for you to become an advanced user, but getting the basics right first is always a good step. 09:13:10 Even if you've used another Unix-like environment, there are enough differences that can trip you up, that you should be careful when you try to leap and run when you can barely walk, if you'll excuse the analogy :) 09:13:53 i'm aware, but when it comes to the rest i've pretty much figured it out, there isn't that big of a difference after all 09:13:59 but the video stuff is confusing 09:14:21 The video stuff is one of the things that's most like Linux, because it gets ported from the Linux kernel. ;) 09:14:21 i mean it's confusing even on linux, nothing to do with bsd 09:14:32 yep 09:14:51 so the only reason it worked on opensuse is because some things were pre-configured, it's not like i managed to pull it off ;) 09:15:15 which is, frankly, how i prefer it to be most of the time 09:15:19 You won't get any of that on FreeBSD, but on the other hand in setting it up to your liking, you risk learning a lot more. 09:15:28 some things i don't wanna tinker with like ever 09:15:34 just don't feel like it 09:15:36 Really? 09:15:38 yeah... 09:15:51 not very romantic ;) 09:15:55 I'm that way but only when I've set something up. 09:17:06 In that respect, I think, FreeBSD suits me well - it's _very_ rare that stuff breaks. 09:17:52 I do hope you learn to appreciate it though, as I've found other people who had your attitude and who came to love FreeBSD. 09:18:03 i'm not saying i'm hating it ;) 09:18:12 it is what it is 09:19:19 And of course, you're welcome to ask questions in here (although please try to remember just to ask in general, as you already have done - some people have an unfortunate habit of expecting someone who's helped them once to always be available for help later, which is unrealistic) 09:19:40 sure, i know 09:20:05 i've been here before and it seemed a little dead but i still came back to ask a new question 09:20:29 didn't really expect much though 13:28:43 does anyone know if docker works now on FreeBSD 13:40:56 Oclair: it doesn't, but you might find other jail/bhyve managers to be quite good alternative 14:13:00 Oclair: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21570 <-- it's being worked on, but is currently not ready 14:13:02 Title: βš™ D21570 Update sysutils/docker-freebsd to new version 14:44:11 johnm: that looks pretty stalled/stale to me… 14:59:57 I cannot stop typing "pkg_delete," "pkg_add," etc. 15:06:28 There a smart way to clean up /usr/ports/distfiles? 15:06:33 Little short on space on this VPS, and don't want to re-download needed tarballs, since the bandwidth is metered. 15:08:30 i know that portmaster can (could?) delete the obsolete distfiles, not sure if there is other way 15:09:26 Yeah, it has a -d switch for deleting stale distfiles, which I generally use, but it's not been used every time. 15:11:22 Guess I'm looking for a way to walk to the ports tree to check for stale distifles. 15:13:48 Hmm. .. . wonder if `portmaster -and` would do it. 15:15:30 'Cept I think -a only works with installed ports. 15:16:33 I answered on #FreeBSD-ports but I'll answer here as well. 15:16:35 I use 'portmaster -y --clean-distfiles' which cleans out any unused distfiles 15:23:26 BinGOs, sorry I was detached from this screen session poking around man pages. . . 15:23:29 I'll try that - thanks. 15:25:11 That's deleting something. . . 15:25:14 Hopefully not too much. 15:25:41 It would seem the go ports have left a shit-ton of cruft sitting there. 15:29:05 BinGOs, that seems to have been perfect - thanks. 16:01:20 It's not because I like docker, it's because other devs which only know Linux Mac and Windows think docker support covers Open Source 17:02:10 "pkg clean is used to cleanup the local cache of packages downloaded from remote repositories. It removes packages that have been superseded by newer versions, and any packages that are no longer provided." 17:02:37 oh wait, ports 17:02:49 I use poudriere which has cleanup stuff 17:03:59 poudriere distclean does the job pretty well 17:09:56 pkg clean cleans up package cache, not distfile cache 17:31:02 aye I misread there 19:55:43 Suddenly my server panics 8 times today! Have no idea, so create a bug about it on Bugzilla first: 19:55:47 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=266999 19:55:49 Title: 266999 – panic: make_dev_sv: bad si_name (error=17, si_name=tun3) 21:06:46 I am having a hard time getting a recursive DNS server using BIND working on my FreeBSD installation. I was wondering if someone could help me with this. I want to configure a BIND DNS server that, when asked an unkown query, will go to the roots, the TLD roots, and so and on and so forth. Any ideas? 21:10:41 @signalblue do you want it to go for the roots? what is your config? 21:19:01 @signalblue did you read the named.conf comment? There is a how to on 75 line. 21:20:16 spmzt_: yes I want it to either forward to the NOC DNS server or go to the roots, whichever config is easier. 21:24:38 My configuration is as follows: https://www.shivenjoshi.com/ircshare/named.conf 21:29:48 hey all I am looking at getting a wireless network card for one my freebsd systems, ideally that supports '/a/b/g/n' no issue finding a list of what can do b/g but 'n'? can't seem to find a list of supported hardware anywhere (including the release notes) anyone have any ideas? 21:33:00 ah the wiki ^_^ 21:33:53 seems intel and atheros are the best shouts 21:34:22 anyone have any support either way for any reason? 22:34:43 morn 22:50:27 caddy won't start! first i run `caddy validate` and verify the config is valid. then i try `service caddy start` and /var/log/caddy/caddy.log contains https://termbin.com/naq9 22:57:44 polyex: lots of issues there, but most importantly it looks like you're trying to start it as not-root 23:13:43 it worked fine before tho 23:14:13 did something big change in caddy recently? 23:16:25 polyex: did you run it on port 8080 (unprivileged) and now you're running it on 443 (privileged)? 23:32:50 nope, same ports 23:33:04 the only new thing is the http/3 quic stuff. maybe it's trying to bind to new stuff? 23:33:24 i disabled the firewall so i know that's not the problem 23:33:40 polyex: is something else running on that port already? 23:33:53 443? 23:34:32 sockstat -lP tcp 23:35:03 I l 23:35:27 sockstat -LP or capital i -IP? 23:36:10 polyex: smol L, or you could copypaste it into your terminal, and hopefully have better fonts there 23:36:28 k ya nothing on 443 23:37:25 polyex: and, once again: you're running "service caddy start" as root user, or with sudo, or something of the like? 23:39:15 no in rc.conf i have caddy enable, caddy user/group ="caddy" 23:39:31 i had to enable a kernel module for that to work 23:39:41 mac_portacl 23:42:15 then in /etc/rc.local i put sysctl security.mac.portacl.rules="uid:caddy:tcp:80,uid:caddy:tcp:443" 23:42:31 i wonder if i need to add another entry there like uid:caddy:udp:443? 23:42:42 no. 23:42:58 listen udp :443: bind: operation not permitted 23:43:00 oh 23:43:06 well i dunno wtf then 23:43:20 first off, sysctl rules can go into /etc/sysctl.conf 23:43:43 unless caddy is somehow supposed to start before sysctl stuff is loaded 23:45:02 i think i put it in there because i run some bash in rc.local. i put the name of the webserver user into a var 23:45:41 like #!/bin/sh ... __uid=$(id -u caddy) 23:45:44 rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* ← on my system, sysctl comes third 23:45:57 then sysctl security... line uses __uid 23:46:28 can't put that in sysctl.conf right? 23:47:54 polyex: right. However, our port system has stable UIDs and GIDs 23:48:29 except, there is no caddy user in ports/UIDs 23:48:55 * meena needs to head to bed 23:50:25 that worked!!!!! 23:50:45 rc.local isn't early enough? 23:52:10 rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* | cat -n | grep -w local 23:52:18 it's waaaaay late. 23:56:06 sorry... 23:56:24 meena no what fixed it was adding an entry to security.mac.portacl.rules for udp:443!