01:11:18 <polyex> i got 13.1 bhyve guest running with xrdp. was working great till i just ran pkg upgrade. now it says it can't start X server
01:11:29 <polyex> any help debugging appreciated
01:13:11 <parv> What error message do you see?
01:15:52 <polyex> ./var/log/messages for example has xrdp-sesman error there is no x server active on display 10, a fatal error has occured attempting to start the window manager on display 10, aborting connection
01:16:22 <polyex> fwiw i ran i3wm and rofi task launcher i think
01:16:30 <parv> OK. So why is there no X11 session?
01:16:30 <polyex> then chrome browser
01:16:36 <polyex> dunno
01:16:52 <polyex> i have another bhyve that i haven't pkg upgrade yet and it still works as usual
01:17:57 <mason> polyex: Did you upgrade the host or the guest?
01:18:03 <polyex> both
01:18:14 <mason> Variables, many!
01:18:17 <polyex> host X is running fine
01:18:54 <polyex> ya but this is a bhyve guest freebsd that i can xrdp in. it's weird, rdp is working but there's no x running
01:19:32 <polyex> how do i even begin debugging this?
01:19:56 <mason> polyex: Look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log on the guest?
01:20:21 <polyex> i looked for that but it didnt exist!!
01:20:34 <mason> fallback, look at guest dmesg?
01:22:33 <polyex> nothing in dmesg jumps out
01:22:56 <polyex> what if i get my xrdp configs together then share that?
01:23:05 <polyex> maybe there's some new incompatibility
01:23:11 <polyex> sucks to have shit just break tho and now i can't work
01:23:37 <mason> Yeah, that's a common pain point for me.
01:26:41 <polyex> im gonna have to just lose the bookmark data and wipe vm, reinstall, hope fresh install works
01:27:26 <mason> polyex: Can you save it for forensics? Otherwise if it happens again you're just as hosed.
01:27:52 <mason> polyex: Also, it should be possible to fish out data if all that's messed up is the graphical display.
01:28:10 <polyex> ya but if it happens on a fresh install i can batch my related configs up and share here but easier for you experts to dig into
02:53:15 <sams> uhm running freebsd / opnsense on a pi but cannot install sysbench? im assuming i need to change something in repo? 13.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 13.1-RELEASE
02:57:37 <parv> Is there a binary package of "sysbench" for your system? Or, does the port not compile?
03:02:36 <sams> no binary it seems? pkg: No packages available to install matching 'sysbench' have been found in the repositories
03:04:11 <sams> /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf only has: FreeBSD: { enabled: yes }
03:04:30 <sams> is that normal?
03:07:00 <sams> i also have no /user/ports dir
03:18:56 <parv> Ok. I see one -- pkg search -x sysbench -- for "amd64" system. Check the log|progress of package building for your system (https://portsfallout.com/fallout perhaps). Freshports lists the last packages available for a system: https://www.freshports.org/benchmarks/sysbench
03:18:57 <VimDiesel> Title: Fallout list - FreeBSD pkg-fallout
03:19:31 <sams> im on aarch64
03:20:14 <parv> According to FreshPorts link, "aarch64" lacks a package
03:20:34 <sams> is it possible to compile from source though?
03:21:26 <parv> Yes; that is why I had asked about the compilation of the port.
03:22:25 <parv> And yeah one should be able to compile outside of ports given various dependencies have been satisfied
03:23:21 <sams> what would i need to do? linux is my usual..
03:24:14 <sams> sysbenc h github site doesnt mention freebsd too
03:25:51 <parv> Install "git" (never used "gitup" myself); clone the ports tree; change to the port directory; "make build && install". See https://www.freshports.org/benchmarks/sysbench
03:25:52 <VimDiesel> Title: FreshPorts -- benchmarks/sysbench: Scriptable database and system performance benchmark
03:26:14 <parv> s/make build && install/make build && make install/
03:27:08 <parv> Sorry, I meant https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/ports/#ports-using link not the freshports one
03:27:10 <VimDiesel> Title: Chapter 4. Installing Applications: Packages and Ports | FreeBSD Documentation Portal
03:28:36 <sams> ok
03:30:35 <parv> The "default" (for some definition) path for the directory is: /usr/ports/benchmarks/sysbench. (Previous FreshPorts page lists the one-liner to compile & install the port)
03:31:08 <sams> portsnap: Command not found.
03:32:04 <parv> Install it then: pkg install ...
03:32:36 <sams> pkg: No packages available to install matching 'portsnap' have been found in the repositories
03:34:21 <sams> freebsd aarch64 sounds kinda gimped. but its the only way i can get opnsense on here
03:35:36 <parv> Ouch😩
03:36:09 <parv> Does "pkg update" do anyting?
03:36:13 <sams> yes
03:37:00 <sams> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up to date. Updating OPNsense repository catalogue... OPNsense repository is up to date. All repositories are up to date.
03:37:27 <sams> git install fine too btw
03:37:37 <parv> Ah, ok
03:38:02 <sams> rock and a hard place by the looks of it
03:39:16 <parv> Have you tried cloning the ports tree yet?
03:39:44 <sams> no
03:39:50 <sams> how
03:40:20 <parv> That is mentioned at the FreeBSD Handbook I listed earlier: https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/ports/#ports-using
03:40:21 <VimDiesel> Title: Chapter 4. Installing Applications: Packages and Ports | FreeBSD Documentation Portal
03:41:55 <sams> sorry yeah thats where it states to use 'portsnap fetch'
03:42:15 <parv> Scroll down to find git-clone
03:42:28 <sams> ooh yeah i just did *facepalm*
03:45:07 <parv> Try asking some other time to see if some "pkg" configuration could be tweaked for you to install packages
03:45:40 <sams> that page is all over the place: found it now: git clone https://git.FreeBSD.org/ports.git /usr/ports
03:45:42 <VimDiesel> Title: ports - FreeBSD ports tree
03:47:43 <sams> this is gonna take a while by the looks of it
03:47:50 <parv> Yes
03:48:17 <sams> all thos little files is bogging it down im guessing?
03:48:53 <parv> That & lots of history
03:49:09 <sams> 1% now see you next week! lol
03:52:00 <parv> I have /usr/ports ~2.42 GB
03:52:43 <sams> 3% now and oinly 45MB
03:53:45 <parv> 🎲: Pay bills; do laundry; cook lunch|dinner; take a walk ...
03:55:05 <sams> yeah sounds like a job to do before going to bed..
06:43:01 <hhfyu> when will those be fixed? https://pkg-status.freebsd.org/builds/default:quarterly:123amd64:5093dc0096b9:beefy2
06:45:46 <parv> Which package are you waiting for?
06:46:48 <hhfyu> for 500 missing packages
06:47:19 <hhfyu> which were removed from the repos due to webkit2-gtk3-2.34.6_3
06:47:28 <hhfyu> and chromium obviously
06:51:06 <hhfyu> it's been broken for more than a week
06:51:43 <parv> Are there PRs|progress trackers on FreeBSD BugXilla for the blocker packages?
06:51:53 <parv> s/BugXilla/Bugzilla/
06:55:42 <parv> Perhaps add your vote to https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=263833 ?
06:55:45 <VimDiesel> Title: 263833 – www/chromium: no package for 12.3-amd64-latest for over a month
06:56:40 <hhfyu> is freebsd too poor to afford a normal buildfarm?
06:58:07 <kevans> poudriere doesn't do distributed builds
06:58:53 <kevans> you're waiting on one beefy machine to complete that particular combination, and that's assuming the underlying ports have even been fixed
07:01:01 <hhfyu> the most sane decision is to flag those packages to be built one at the time, but freebsd is not about sane decisions, right?
07:02:05 <parv> 🍿
07:02:26 <kevans> alright, not going to really engage with this kind of poor attitude. good luck.
10:56:23 <andmars> ahoi, great, now that I wanted to build my first program from ports it fails :-)
10:56:45 <andmars> could someone check pipe-viewer in /multimedia and tell me what I could do there?
11:00:21 <andmars> (or what was the command to post the output of the error to a pastebin?)
11:01:59 <andmars> one info is: libthai-0.1.29 depends on shared library: libdatrie.so - not found
11:05:05 <hhfyu> you don't have gnome installed?
11:05:34 <andmars> hhfyu: nope
11:06:06 <andmars> it worked a couple of days ago and I think there were some changes in libdatrie workd folder today
11:06:18 <andmars> *work
11:06:20 <hhfyu> install libdatrie ?
11:06:34 <hhfyu> libthai usually comes as gtk dependency
11:06:36 <andmars> hhfyu: you think it can be that easy?
11:07:37 <andmars> yep, funny...now I have pipe-viewer
11:07:41 <andmars> hhfyu: good job
11:07:50 <andmars> it just didn't like the package from ports
12:36:35 <andmars> well, I have powerd running but my cpu is a max freq...now downclocking...how can this be?
12:37:48 <blackroot> is it enabled in bios?
12:38:12 <andmars> blackroot: what setting in bios would that be?
12:38:54 <blackroot> cpu stepping, cool'n'quiet, something like that. it can have a few different names depending on hardware
12:39:10 <andmars> blackroot: gonna reboot and check...just a sec
12:39:39 <blackroot> '
12:47:21 <andmars> okay, it was something in my .xinitrc that kept the cpu freq up
13:41:45 <PredatorONormies> Hi
13:41:47 <PredatorONormies> I got some news
13:41:52 <PredatorONormies> MPV sucks after the last update
13:42:11 <PredatorONormies> sometimes ENTER doesn't start playing the next video in the queue
13:42:19 <PredatorONormies> for example `mpv *`
13:42:51 <PredatorONormies> It could have been that the --shuffle also had the current video at the end of the video (forgot to check for that)
13:43:07 <PredatorONormies> But I am also pretty sure that the settings such as contrast and gamma were gone
15:30:37 <psionic> is the camera works with the latest FreeBSD on Raspberry PI Zero W? Table says ????
16:13:00 <debdrup> psionic: Is the camera v4l2-compatile?
16:15:20 <daemon> I my workplace uses StartTLS for both inbound and outbound mail; my email client only supports StartTLS outbound and SSL/TLS inbound, is there anything I could do on my external server to effectively act as an auth bridge, so I can use SSL/TLS with it and it can deal with works email system for me
16:21:24 <rtprio> inbound and outbound ? as a mta or mua ?
17:10:25 <psionic> what a crap email client that is, change your client :D
17:12:30 <tmp_> stunnel?
17:14:22 <rtprio> i don't think stunnel would help in this case
17:14:26 <rtprio> psionic: agreed
17:15:53 <tmp_> This does sound like a case I dealt with using stunnel.
17:21:14 <PredatorONormies> Hi. Did anyone answer to my MPV bug report? I have a unstable connection
17:28:56 <grahamperrin> PredatorONormies: I think not. Maybe post to freebsd-questions ahead of formalising a bug report.
17:29:42 <PredatorONormies> oh
17:29:47 <PredatorONormies> I came here as a bug report
17:29:51 <PredatorONormies> I hate mailing lists
17:30:07 <PredatorONormies> I hate e-mails
17:30:26 <PredatorONormies> I hate 100 ways of communcation - none being perfect
17:53:04 <psionic> is the rpi wifi support still as shit as that table shows it? :D
18:43:31 <rkerr> Both Enter and '>' are working for me in mpv.
19:04:21 <\dev\null> Hi guys, I'm having problems running anope irc services on a FreeBSD 13.1, coredump occurs. But ONLY if anope is builded on FreeBSD 13.1. If I build anope on FreeBSD 13.0, copy the binaries and run on FreeBSD 13.1, it runs fine.  I tested on a fresh install of FreeBSD 13.0 and FreeBSD 13.1. Maybe clang issue? Anyone tested anope on FreeBSD 13.1?
19:12:34 <polyex> im getting https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=265675
19:12:36 <VimDiesel> Title: 265675 – Black screen after updating xorg-server
19:12:45 <polyex> seems like latest big xorg update broke a lot of ppl's installs
19:13:10 <mason> polyex: Is this the VM issue, or a new issue?
19:13:21 <polyex> vm/bhyve guest issue
19:13:30 <polyex> the host xorg is working fine after upgrade... somehow
19:13:32 <mason> Ah, I'm glad it's a known thing then. That'll help.
19:13:46 <polyex> IF that's the same issue. seems like it
19:48:04 <polyex> xrdp-sesman is responsible for starting X. how can i see why it's failing? there's no /var/log/X... that's created
19:55:59 <polyex> OK I FIGURED IT OUT AND I CANT FUCKING BELIEVE IT
19:56:18 <polyex> ANYONE WANNA MEET UP FOR A TURD PARTY TO CELEBRATE??
19:56:18 <mason> polyex: What was it?
19:56:32 <polyex> k lemme get it
19:57:40 <polyex> in /usr/local/etc/xrdp/sesman.ini in [Xorg] section, commented param=Xorg out and replaced with param=/usr/local/libexec/Xorg. rebooted, works
19:58:09 <polyex> i could freerdp into box, but it was all black. so i knew xrdp was working and the error about not starting xorg was the culprit
19:58:12 <mason> A bad path?
19:58:17 <mason> hrm
19:58:18 <polyex> so i looked at sesman instead of xrdp
19:58:23 <polyex> ya
19:58:24 <mason> But libexec shouldn't be in a path.
19:58:34 <mason> So your fix is probably right, and it makes me wonder how it worked before.
19:58:42 <polyex> check out the new sesman.ini.sample it has a comment on it
19:58:52 <mason> polyex++
20:01:14 <polyex> seen sesman.ini.sample? it says for FreeBSD (from 2022Q4) to use the path i tried
20:48:18 <polyex> still cant believe i figured this out ffs. gotta go give money to homeless or smth
20:48:22 <polyex> ty mason
21:51:39 <gausus> re