05:08:59 little confused - EDITOR=nano crontab -e is giving me an error from vim 05:09:17 zsh and bash 05:10:16 et09: is $VISUAL set? 05:10:57 ah - yes - thanks 08:14:08 Anyone seen a "too many open files" message while building net-mgmt/prometheus2 ? 08:18:07 weust: not specifically, but FreeBSD has a small default for open files 08:33:33 megaTherion: yeah, I know. in my poudriere.conf I have an entry for vscode to set it to 4096. Just did that for prometheus2 now as well 08:33:58 isn't 4096 still very small? 08:34:04 But it's fairly recent as it build fine before. Server has been offline for over a month due to the summer heat here (it's a home server) 08:34:26 4096 is enough for vscode. it's described somewhere too specifically for vscode. forgot where 08:35:28 One too many files open today? 08:35:32 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=242871 08:35:34 Title: 242871 – editors/vscode: add warning for build Error: EMFILE: too many open files 08:35:40 🤷‍♂️ 08:37:07 btw, I couldn't find it on portsfallout.com 08:37:27 Ha! That reminds me of Java when needed to bump up memory a bit 08:37:35 weust: maybe it's just outdated 08:37:43 build routines tend to change 08:38:19 perhaps. log shows lines like this a lot too: vendor/k8s.io/apimachinery/pkg/util/managedfields/extract.go:24:2: cannot find package 08:38:29 which I assume is because of the too many open files. 08:39:49 I'm running a bulk build atm. When that finished I will try again to see is 4096 ie large enough. 08:40:57 memory isn't an issue. 128GB using 8 builds at the same time, so some packages can use HT 08:41:05 ports* 08:43:11 Default (as in I have not change it) of "kern.openfiles=196" does seem rather low 08:43:22 s/change/&d/ 08:43:58 the default's regarding this are way too conservative for many modern things 08:44:22 on my box I've 1136 as default 08:52:25 Currently "fstat | awk '$2 != "fstat"' | wc -l" shows a count of 563 08:53:15 on my NAS/poudriere server it shows 1489 08:56:04 but it is building 8 ports right now. 08:57:24 on my box its 1900, regardless of kern.openfiles=1141 08:57:50 kern.openfiles: 345 08:58:20 things like sockets aren't really open files or? 08:58:57 I have no idea 10:16:50 well, max files 4096 seems to work for net-mgmt/prometheus2 10:28:36 weust: so what changed? 11:54:21 Commit processing on FreshPorts is paused until about 0300 UTC while a script to correct 'homepage' values is running. 12:57:54 I'm currently not running FreeBSD, but I am writing a tool and I think I might want to support FreeBSD with it. It specifically is a tool to send verbs to HDA codecs. That appears to be available at the kernel level, but I'm not sure if it's exposed in userland. 12:59:50 There is a kernel driver at `sys/dev/sound/pci/hda/hdac.c`, which exposes(?) the method `hdac_codec_command`, which would be a nice entry point. But it is a kernel driver. 14:22:09 Hi! We've got multiple FIB support, so I'm reading https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2865 and see, describes Framed-Route attribute to pass a route (or many) to a NAS, with metrics, but it does not define a way to specify distinct routing table numbers. Before I invent my own format to implement FIB support for net/mpd5 (PPPoE/PPtP/L2TP), I'd like to ask if anyone know if some other NAS/RADIUS clients implement multiple-routing-tables over RADIUS? 14:22:10 Title: RFC 2865: Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) 14:25:03 RFC 2865 mentiones multiple "metric" integer values appended to dotten quad form of IPv4 address/mask and I could interpret second "metric" as FIB number, but... 14:55:57 dadv: good catch. 15:40:05 I've always used motherboards with Intel chipsets for FreeBSD, but I'm considering switching to AMD. How could I tell if FreeBSD would support this board? https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS/ 15:40:07 Title: TUF GAMING X570-PLUS｜Motherboards｜ASUS USA 15:40:51 For example, I don't see the Realtek L8200A LAN listed on the 13.1 HW notes page. 15:44:52 chriswells0: I'm not seeing anything after doing what's probably the same web search you probably did, so I'd recommend asking on a mailing list or two. 15:46:54 Which list(s)? 15:47:48 chriswells0: I'd think one or more of: https://lists.freebsd.org/subscription/freebsd-net https://lists.freebsd.org/subscription/freebsd-current https://lists.freebsd.org/subscription/freebsd-hackers 15:47:49 Title: FreeBSD Mailing lists: subscription for freebsd-net 15:47:54 perhaps even in that order 15:49:04 Thank you. 17:14:12 megaTherion: I have no idea what changed 17:14:24 weust: I'd say you just hit the limit 17:15:07 I guess, yeah. But looking at the log files when it failed, it wasn't just one. There were a lot of the same message in it 17:29:30 chriswells0: if you opt for Prime X570 Pro instead you get an Intel 211 on-board NIC 17:31:23 Prime is Asus or Asrock? 17:40:33 weust: pretty sure mine says Asus 17:41:05 https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/PRIME/PRIME-X570-PRO/techspec/ 17:41:06 Title: PRIME X570-PRO - Tech Specs｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global 17:46:17 ah right. I personally would avoid Asrock board. At least the cheaper one. very bad VRM cooling 17:53:44 high end asrock are nice 17:54:27 But the lower end is total garbage 17:59:19 my total garbage of an asrock B450 Pro4 has been working perfectly fine with FreeBSD for years, for what it's worth. with a ryzen 2700 though, those don't take a lot of power. 17:59:26 and I added an intel ethernet card to not use the built-in realtek one. 18:00:44 I don't know about B450, but if you look up Hardware Unboxed on youtube, there are several videos on VRM cooling. Main issue with bad cooling is that CPU speeds aren't properly held or even reached. 18:03:11 heh, I probably wouldn't even notice that tbh 18:05:11 :-) 18:28:01 I don't have anything "against" another motherboard manufacturer, but ASUS has been so good to me that I'll stick with it until I have a very good reason to switch. 18:31:29 depends on your needs of course, but in general all are fine. Except Asrock on lower end motherboards. but always check out reviews before buying 18:36:19 asus are good I have a few my self, but TYAN is always a competitor 18:36:33 had nothing but horror from ASRock over time 18:36:36 same with MSI 18:38:36 I've had MSI before, but a very long time ago. Have Gigabyte now and had some in the past. Asus was probably the P5B at some point. Abit BX6 Rev 2.0 was a overlocking king back in the late 90's 18:38:51 always had good luck with tyan workstation boards when i ran them 18:39:15 been several years since having one though, i assume their quality has been maintained 18:39:21 Never had Tyan. Prob 18:39:44 probably because they were workstation boards, not for extreme overlocking with freon gas and such :-) 18:40:01 well yea, but that crap is just silly 18:40:25 just put some flame stickers on your case, there its faster now 18:40:34 no no, RGB. 18:40:42 oh right 18:41:28 ;-) 18:59:06 Remilia: The Prime motherboard is a bit more expensive and doesn't have WiFi/Bluetooth built-in. :( Everything works on it, though? LAN, sound, USB? 19:09:37 how can i set freebsd to boot from GRUB with UEFI (UEFI and Legacy Mode), unde only legacy (MBR) it boots ok, i know: 19:09:38 menuentry "FreeBSD" { 19:09:38 set root=(hd2,2) 19:09:38 chainloader +1 19:09:38 } 19:09:49 and MBR boots fine with chainloader 19:09:57 but with uefi i don't know how with GRUB 19:10:02 who knows how? 19:39:25 chriswells0: oh, it being more expensive is weird to me, over here TUF is always more pricey 19:39:44 if you need BT and WiFi I guess it is a poor choice 19:39:56 I never really needed that in a desktop system myself haha 19:40:54 I think when I tried FreeBSD on it I did not have issues with LAN and USB, but as I never install X and basically never use FreeBSD as a workstation OS myself (due to software I use for work)… 19:41:19 the sound chip is HDA compatible though so I think it should work with a generic driver? 19:41:35 I plug my desktop in to the LAN, but I run virtual machines on a separate VLAN over WiFi. 19:42:53 my VMs use wired VLAN tags haha 19:43:08 Bluetooth matters less, but I like to dream that it'll be an option to use a Bluetooth headset one day. 19:43:18 (Hyper-V lets you tell which VMs see which VLANs and how exactly) 19:43:36 (pretty sure you can do that with FreeBSD bridges too) 19:43:59 I'd be interested to know how. Then I could get a decent speed. 19:44:13 uh 19:44:25 add VLAN-tagged interfaces, then bridge them with VMs? 19:45:44 chriswells0: I mean you do something like vlans_igb1="2 50" and then ifconfig_igb1_2="inet 10.255.0.1 netmask 255.255.0.0" or what have you 19:45:52 there, you have 802.11q 19:46:11 then bridge igb1.2 to your VM's epair 19:48:23 I found these: 19:48:24 https://genneko.github.io/playing-with-bsd/networking/freebsd-vlan/ 19:48:24 https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-freebsd-vlans-with-ifconfig-command/ 19:48:24 Title: Understanding VLAN Configuration on FreeBSD - genneko 19:49:12 That's what you're talking about? 20:28:41 Argh, brutex left without an answer. 20:29:02 I'll whip up something on the wiki. 20:34:33 mason: grub isn't supported anyways? 20:35:02 megaTherion: Not by FreeBSD itself, but here's the page in case brutex comes back: https://wiki.freebsd.org/MasonLoringBliss/BootingFreeBSDfromUEFIGRUB 20:35:03 Title: MasonLoringBliss/BootingFreeBSDfromUEFIGRUB - FreeBSD Wiki 20:36:56 And... Just changed it to show how to find ESPs generally, rather than one one specific partition. =cough= 22:30:56 Im coming around to using a port mgmt tool to upgrade things...synth is great! 23:48:51 just realized that freebsd has a version of vim compiled with +clipboard and +xterm_clipboard options 23:49:03 bless you 23:59:36 What does +clipboard provide?