00:27:37 <woland> thumbs: yea I know from sequrity prespective theyre aweome
00:36:37 <simplydrew> Having an odd situation on 13.1. Had smb configured and working at one point, but has randomly stopped working. Tried doing a “service samba_server start”, but not getting a service found. Configuration is present in /usr/local/etc/smb.conf. Also the right flag is in rc.conf. Any ideas on where to start?
01:10:37 <polyex> i wanna test that a box i run locally really doesn't accept pw ssh, even if user has a pw set. but my main box is already set up with nice ssh key manager and other stuff that adds to a default ssh. what do you do to deal with stuff like that? maybe make a separate bhyve vm to try from or what?
01:11:03 <polyex> i just tinker alone dont work so i cant just ask coworkers
02:21:22 <parv> simplydrew, Do you see any messages in /var/log or on the console?
02:44:34 <ebonheart> polyex: if it is spinning up testing environments I still like to use vagrant. It hides all the security inanities and lets you ssh straight in to whatever fresh linux/bsd you need to run.
03:02:45 <V_PauAmma_V> polyex, if your ssh key manager lets you do that, try entering the ssh passphrase wrong 3 times when prompted. If the box you're testing has sshd set to accept passwords, the ssh client should ask for one then. Otherwise the ssh client just gives up then.
03:06:57 <V_PauAmma_V> Or you could use ssh -F /some/ssh/config/file on the client side to take the key manager out of the picture.
04:50:04 <Mystified1234> hwy guy's, please guide me on the right path. I have a GPT nvme drive, efi is Partition 1, I've set aside partition to install freebsd on unallocated space of 63GB at partition 7. How I I Install without wiping the drive & for the installer to configure partition 7. Bootloader has both refind & grub.
04:50:27 <Mystified1234> thanks in advance.
05:53:55 <Mystified1234> hwy guy's, please guide me on the right path. I have a GPT nvme drive, efi is Partition 1, I've set aside partition to install freebsd on unallocated space of 63GB at partition 7. How I I Install without wiping the drive & for the installer to configure partition 7. Bootloader has both refind & grub.
06:09:15 <ebonheart> Mystified1234: hoo boy, that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. I gave up on quadbooting my laptop a long time ago, because my sanity was more important to me.
06:09:58 <ebonheart> ... I think i lost it somewhere anyway, but that is for another time.
06:10:44 <ebonheart> Step one, do a full image backup of the drive. You are going to need it.
06:12:27 <edenist> Mystified1234: agree with ebonheart. It *can* be done, but you have to be so careful. I would be worried at updates that you aren't overwriting anything boot related.
06:12:57 <edenist> for example you can configure grub to chainload the freebsd bootloader: eg as is discussed here
06:12:59 <edenist> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-13-booting-with-grub.80643/
06:13:36 <edenist> but frankly, if you're just experimenting with freebsd I'd recommend using a VM rather than risk messing up your existing installs
06:13:53 <ebonheart> edenist: yup, using windows as one of the OSes made for fun times on patch tuesdays.
06:17:25 <edenist> dual booting multiple OS types off the same drive is a hot-potato regardless of OS these days. I'd never advise in favour of it. if you absolutely must run on metal with multiple OS's use separate drives and do a boot select in bios/uefi at startup.
06:20:10 <ebonheart> edenist: good advice. Separate drives with separate ESP partitions, letting linux and freebsd (and windows) each use their own bootloaders. That is the sane way to multiboot.
06:20:26 <Mystified1234> thanks, Guys. I'll take that onboard, and not try it. Instead, I'll pull out an old blk lenovo i7 think it's 2nd or 3rd gen, stick in a small ssd try it out.
06:24:53 <ebonheart> Mystified1234: yes, spare machines and VMs are great for learning. Good luck!
06:26:08 <Mystified1234> thanks ebonheart: :)
06:27:06 <Mystified1234> dito to edenist: :)
06:46:39 <edenist> no problem Mystified1234 :-) Good luck and happy to assist if you have any further questions
06:46:50 <Mystified1234>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFYwill do mystified
06:47:04 <Mystified1234> will do thanks.
06:53:54 <xmj> time to change the passphrase
10:28:44 <nomad_fr> hi, since upgrade to FreeBSD 13.1 I have Stale file handle on .zfs/snapshot over NFS. It work perfect with same pool same configuration but on 13.0 : it seems there is the same issue with TrueNAS see details here : https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-13-1-zfs-nfs-zfs-snapshot-stale-file-handle.86363/
10:30:48 <parv> Remount, one or other?
10:31:04 <parv> s/one or other/one way or other/
10:33:25 <nomad_fr> parv: yes it works, but on 13.0 there were a bug that gives latency... so I need to upgrade.
10:35:24 <parv> nomad_fr, By "remount" I mean unmount the NFS exported directory on the client side. Then mount again to see if you still get "stale file handle" message
10:43:20 <parv> Ah. Nevermind (after having read the thread linked on TrueNAS forums)
11:24:01 <nerozero> hi there, what is the proper 7z archiving port ?
11:24:29 <nerozero> I have used previously p7z - which now seems to have security issues
11:27:20 <luna__> nerozero: 7-zip
11:27:47 <nerozero> luna__, tnx
11:27:58 <luna__> np
11:40:15 <idwer> nerozero: if the archives won't travel outside your freebsd machine(s), you could look at zstd
11:41:16 <nerozero> idwer, I do, but for this case i should generate archive for "normies" .... and 7-zip doesn't seems to understand tar.zst files
11:41:24 <nerozero> but thank you for reply !
11:41:56 <nerozero> i mean this one: https://www.7-zip.org/download.html
11:42:39 <idwer> 7z requires windows users to install 3rd party apps, if that's the challenge
11:43:07 <nerozero> for ages using that archiver
11:43:22 <nerozero> and users forced to use that one ...
12:44:30 <debdrup> nerozero: libarchive, which is the backend for the tar utility (as well as pax, (un)[tg]xz and others) can handle basically all archival formats - so I'm curious why you install 7zip?
12:46:01 <nerozero> debdrup, really ? I didn't knew that. So can I compress files using tar to make 7zip file readable on windows platform ?
12:46:22 <nerozero> I will gladly appreciate sample if it is possible
12:48:29 <debdrup> nerozero: 7zip is a program and has little to do with the compression algorithms (whether it's Lempel-Zip or one of its many derivatives like DEFLATE or others) that're supported.
12:48:47 <debdrup> nerozero: there's examples in the manual page for both decompression and compression
12:49:02 <debdrup> Lempel-Ziv, sorry
12:49:11 <nerozero> tnx
12:49:27 <nerozero> will look thru, no I have active "monday" ...
12:49:50 <debdrup> Also, fun fact: For extraction, -xf is enough.
12:50:06 <debdrup> No need to specify the compression algorithm, it figures that out.
12:50:30 <debdrup> One of the few good implementations of heuristics code that work reliably.
12:52:04 <debdrup> Back in the day, libarchive started in FreeBSD but surprisingly quickly got moved to its own project - I'm a little miffed that it's not been more broadly adopted, since it's copy-free licensed and so incredibly useful.
13:06:42 <nerozero> debdrup, what I need is to compress data and send this file to "normal" office user, basically on windows machine. Which should be possible to decompress by using generic archiver with 7-zip support
13:06:56 <debdrup> nerozero: yeah, tar can do that.
13:07:05 <nerozero> debdrup, thank you!!!
13:07:19 <nerozero> so 7z is kinda tar.7z ?
13:08:31 <debdrup> No, it's a container.
13:09:12 <debdrup> Just like video files are typically containers for video+audio and optionally subtitles, so are things like 7zip and tar files.
13:20:06 <nerozero> debdrup, my question was, if the tar packing files into the stream before compressing, the same way as windows 7zip archiver does?
13:20:48 <debdrup> nerozero: you can tar then compress the tarball with xz
13:21:18 <debdrup> I don't remember how libarchive does things, but I doubt it makes much difference on modern CPUs.
13:21:41 <nerozero> That is really awesome !
13:21:55 <nerozero> I will reply here about my results
13:22:25 <nerozero> thank tou debdrup !
13:22:41 <nerozero> *you
13:28:40 <nerozero> debdrup, so it is basically lzma .... not it make more sense !
13:28:57 <nerozero> today i become 50% smarter :D
13:35:29 <nerozero> unfortunately windows client see a tar file inside archive ... so it is still two step archive, which requires additional brain processing for user...
14:06:03 <debdrup> nerozero: then just use tar
14:07:32 <debdrup> tar -xC <file/directory> -f file.txz
14:08:07 <nerozero> i SHOULD supply 7z archive to a user ( requirement )
14:09:34 <fonks> I don't know of a tool for creating 7z archives in unix-likes, only unzipping (unar)
14:10:14 <nerozero> archivers/7-zip port
14:10:40 <nerozero> add to archive 7z a -t7z archive.7z file1 file2 ....
14:44:33 <last1> a bit of a strange question: zfs showed I get 85Tb available, then I rebooted the server and empty space jumped to 91Tb
14:44:41 <last1> is there some sort of cleanup that gets done at reboot ?
14:50:37 <CrtxReavr> grep tmp /etc/rc.conf
14:52:14 <CrtxReavr> or `grep tmp /etc/defaults/rc.conf` to see the relevant options.
17:28:09 <debdrup> Using Tb for storage seems.. an interesting choice.
17:34:59 <PredatorONormies> hi
17:39:29 <luna__> hey
17:39:37 <PredatorONormies> How are you?
17:41:13 <luna__> sick and tired
17:54:58 <PredatorONormies> Awesome
17:55:09 <PredatorONormies> When you get better - you will be feeling epic
17:55:16 <PredatorONormies> even better than before you were sick
17:55:28 <PredatorONormies> Beacuse you'll appreciate how good life is when one isn't tired/sick :)
17:55:29 <luna__> :p
17:55:36 <PredatorONormies> :3
20:49:46 <debdrup> Yeaaaaahh..
22:04:24 <polyex> ?
22:58:01 <V_PauAmma_V> Is there a way for me to see which is the active keyboard and (if kbdmux) which physical keyboards are attacher1000
22:59:05 <V_PauAmma_V> Is there a way for me to see which is the active keyboard and (if kbdmux) which physical keyboards are attached to it? kbdcontrol is good for changing state but apparently not as good for displaying current state.