17:48:42 mc_: Any news about v5 release date? 18:22:43 mentax: not good news 18:22:52 pushed to start of 2025 18:23:05 no explanation of why 18:23:19 i have some back channel understanding of what the hold up is 18:23:25 nothing technical 18:23:33 nothing legal 18:23:42 so its particularly frustrating 23:46:56 I mean, I know I'm getting catty by now, but I'm not surprised lol