14:52:08 <hmmhesays> mc_, you mentioned cockroachdb a couple years back. You ever play with that? 
16:18:16 <mc_> hmmhesays: yeah, just prototypes and local installs
16:18:25 <mc_> haven't really stretched the distributed part yet
16:18:37 <mc_> we have some postgres-related work for call center stuff
16:19:00 <mc_> that i'm hoping becomes the basis for migrating over to a postgres db instead of couch
18:07:38 <hmmhesays> mc_, I'm working on that now myself.
18:08:39 <ruel> mc_ postgres instead of couch---you mean for Kazoo??
18:09:23 <hmmhesays> right now we're cloning couchdocs into postgres but the ultimate goal is to have some middleware to translate the couch views
18:53:18 <ruel> For what purpose? What benefits does PG offer over Couch with regards to Kazoo?
19:26:27 <mc_> ruel: ad-hoc queries, mostly
19:27:50 <ruel> Well i can see that would be a benefit I guess. Couch does have mango query though.
19:30:10 <mc_> ruel: its not a for sure thing but it is something we're looking into
19:30:25 <mc_> but i want to get clusters onto couch3 first and see what effect that has
19:30:44 <mc_> and whether we can create a replication scheme like hmmhesays is talking about for customers that want more querying power
19:31:13 <mc_> but have them host it or provide it as a ancillary product
20:03:35 <hmmhesays> couch is absolute trash for any type of large scale analytics
20:05:20 <hmmhesays> postgres json(b) handling is great and it's pretty simple to do a poor mans master-master with pglogical
20:20:32 <ruel> ah yes I can see for analytics purposes how that Couch isn't the best lol. Pretty much everything has to be done server side.
20:21:06 <ruel> Not server side I meant application side. Everything has to be processed in the app after querying pretty much.
20:21:30 <ruel> Having a bolt-on option sounds good.
20:22:02 <ruel> I've been running Couch3 for a couple years now. Not on a large scale but I always use it as default, and have set several customers up with it as well. 
20:23:12 <ruel> I use HAProxy to do a few redirects from the 5986 admin port to the proper paths on 5984. Haven't had any issues. 
20:40:00 <hmmhesays> I wrote my own proxy and replicator for couch to make it manageable and and a precursor to getting everything into postgres