00:21:59 <sudo_root> has anyone ever seen reorder app causing inbound call failures (we had to disable it to get calls to work)
00:25:09 <sudo_root>  i can force this issue by doing.    sup callflow maintenance flush ...
17:51:18 <Serge> What does option "use_federated_listener" do?
20:57:01 <Ysean> Out of morbid curiosity is kazoo 5.x actually going to be delivered this year?  It was "promised" last year.
21:14:04 <mc_> Ysean: i ask this weekly
21:14:33 <mc_> and have asked that we set a firm open-sourcing date despite app exchange status
21:14:51 <mc_> to no avail, biz heads require appex be ready
21:17:59 <Ysean> That thing still isn't done?  I thought I saw it on the corp website.  At least an index of apps.  it was mostly 2600hz, though,
21:20:24 <mc_> i believe they're still working on service plans, how to enforce any limitations the app developer may want on the cluster operator
21:20:35 <Ysean> aaaaah
21:20:45 <mc_> like if you have to pay per VM the app runs on, making sure it only runs on the X VMs you paid for
21:20:47 <mc_> stuff like that
21:20:59 <Ysean> Yup, gotcha.
21:22:42 <Ysean> I suppose that comes down to creating a system for a few specific limitation factors and telling partners / prospects "this is what you have... adjust pricing accordingly.:
21:30:19 <mc_> basically
21:31:01 <mc_> but i continue to agitate for open sourcing regardless of appex status
21:31:12 <mc_> one day i think i'll have annoyed them so much they'll give in
21:31:19 <Ysean> ahahaha
21:31:20 <mc_> using my kids as inspiration
21:31:38 <Ysean> Are there no partners that are pushing for progress?
21:32:03 <Ysean> I would think they'd be interested in an extra revenue stream.  
21:32:11 <Ysean> And, of course, 2600hz taking a cut.
21:34:50 <mc_> there are, i don't have insight into the conversations though
23:34:51 <lvlinux> Thanks mc_ for continuing to push for us. :) I hate to act "entitled" as I know we wouldn't have what we do now if it wasn't for the generosity/openness of 2600Hz to begin with, and I understand the reasoning behind why some parts of Kazoo are closed source (like Callcenter), and others I don't understand (Konami Pro and KazooDB lol) but hopefully they will continue (or rather get back on track) on a 
23:34:57 <lvlinux> primarily open source model.
23:35:49 <lvlinux> But anyway your consistency and support of keeping Kazoo OSS is much appreciated by myself and I'm sure many others.